China is constantly improving stealth planes, drones and engines

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In 2019, China will start deploy J-20B stealth fighters with a new Xian WS-15 jet engine. This engine could finally bring China to about the engine performance level of the US PW-119 engine that were installed over 20 years ago in the F22.

The US has jet engines programs to improve and the power and fuel efficiency of engines compared to those used in the F22.

China is continuing to refine the stealth and various component and systems in their J-20 and J-31 stealth fighters.

China is also continuing to upgrade and improve stealth technology and engines in large stealth drones.

China could soon reveal a stealth bomber which might be comparable to the US B2 stealth bomber.

China’s Air Force is well funded and is clearly surpassing Russia’s air force and catching up to US military technology on the whole range of systems.

11 thoughts on “China is constantly improving stealth planes, drones and engines”

  1. https://cdn.howmuch.net/articles/89_2-da71.jpg

    Basic common sense, if we were making more stuff then why would our imports increase year after year? And our trade deficit increase year after year?

    If say the cars made in my country declines in quality, this would cause a trade deficit. Other countries would refuse to buy cars made in my country, and domestically people would import cars from other countries thus leading to a trade deficit.

    Well can’t we look at a chart of imported cars?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Imported_cars_as_a_percent_of_vehicles_sold_in_the_US.png/400px-Imported_cars_as_a_percent_of_vehicles_sold_in_the_US.png

    The statistics show that the US is increasingly producing less stuff, and increasingly importing foreign products

    Now you might wonder, if US companies are indeed becoming less competitive and going out of business leading to a increasing trade deficit and increasing imports wouldn’t this cause GDP to shrink?

    The GDP growth is primarily from real estate and wall street which are inherently do not generate wealth

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/03/29/how-wall-street-became-a-big-chunk-of-the-u-s-economy-and-when-the-democrats-signed-on/?utm_term=.508a87d50703

    >Modern economies depend on a thriving financial sector, and the U.S. finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector now accounts for 20 percent of GDP — compared with only 10 percent in 1947.

  2. I thought the numbers were that the USA was currently producing MORE products than ever before.
    The confusion is because there is more manufacturing, but less people employed in manufacturing. Because 20 guys with 20 million dollars worth of CNC milling machines and similar can outproduce 200 guys with 1950s tech.

  3. The age of military empires is pretty much over because there is a winner. America controls access to all of the worlds oceans and America will be in orbit waiting when other nations get to space. The only thing America needs to worry about in the foreseeable future is hubris (see President Two Scoops).

  4. You are correct while its not a Ponzi scheme the US economy is distorted, the GDP numbers and high wages don’t match up to other economic indicators

    Our GDP is climbing higher and higher as our trade deficit skyrockets ever higher, Our manufacturing workers are ever fewer and making lower wages while our FIRE and Marketing Industries are growing larger and larger. Government spending growing larger and larger

    Yet FIRE and Marketing do not produce any wealth

    The creeping suspicion is that the US economy has not grown that much, in terms of stuff we aren’t producing as much but we have a lot more people working bullshit jobs so it pumps up our GDP but since we aren’t making more stuff

    Imagine 2 countries exactly the same but in one country a guy is unemployed but in the other country a regulation was passed saying all doors needed to have a minimum size that would allow a fat person to fit through in case of a emergency and some guy works full time going to every company to measure the doors.

    Yes the guy measuring doors is doing work, he will get a paycheck and he will spend it and GDP will go up

    But the actual number of stuff produced like smartphones, cars, computers, tv’s etc.. hasn’t

  5. What makes you think it’s sky high? I think the US is the gold standard when it comes to wealth distribution, we aren’t a perfect society but if you’re suggesting that our wealth gap should look more like Mexico or China then I’d disagree, once it starts to look like Venezuela then things begin to collapse, the more money can be made at an ordinary day job the more stable the society is.

  6. China is already producing the WS-10B which has similar performance to the F-119 that powers the F-22

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2130718/why-chinas-first-stealth-fighter-was-rushed-service

    >However, the thrust-to-weight ratio of the original WS-10 engine was only 7.5, while that of the WS-10B tops out at about nine. The thrust-to-weight ratio of the all-direction, vector turbofan WS-15 Emei engine is more than 10 – one of the basic requirements for giving the J-20 “supercruise” ability.

    Both have a thrust weight of 9

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_F119

    Thrust-to-weight ratio: > 9

    So they already have something comparable, they will have superior engines by next year when they upgrade to the WS-15 thrust vectoring

  7. Funny how our per capita income in sky high, but we have never manufactured fewer products. A bubble? Inflation? My $140k in 2018 has great purchasing power if I want to buy Chinese crhap off Amazon, but I pay $9,000 a year in property taxes because the teacher and and the cop and the city council make that money too. I don’t see how it’s going to last. Looks like a Ponzi scheme to me.

  8. China has 4.2 times as many people as the US, in roughly the same land area. Russia has about half the population of the US with twice the land area. People continue to be the primary economic fundamental. I can picture China having political problems but I’d bet that they surpass the United States in total economic might within 20 or 30 years, not sure if they will ever catch up in terms of per-capita income, currently 7 times greater in the US, a serious problem they will have to solve if they expect to be making more advanced machines.

  9. Pratt & Whitney and General Electric spent 12 years developing prototypes of the F119 engine in the 1980s then, after the engine’s maiden flight, followed by another 14 years of testing before they deployed them on F-22s in September, 1997.

    If China can deliver original-spec WS-15 engines they will beat the F119 by 10kN, an impressive accomplishment for a developing country that gives it the lead and momentum to compete with upgrades to the US engine.

  10. Lets see China build a home grown jet turbine that is comparable to anything the US has, then we will talk. So far they have a few knock off Russian engines, other than that they are always a year away from having their own that is anywhere comparable to a GE or Pratt & W engine. Its been 5 years since they were a year away.

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