China is still 10-20 years from matching US economy and 20-40 years from matching US military

The Pentagon’s annual report to Congress on China’s military and security developments has finally been published but it was several months later than usual.

China is transitioning from equipment that was decades out of date to small numbers of competitive military equipment.

As has been shown in the recent trade conflicts. China’s economy is still weaker than the USA. The US still has a larger economy other than on purchasing power parity. China’s economy is more dependent on trade and is dependent on vital computer and other technology from the USA.

China has greater foreign oil dependency than the USA.

It would likely take until 2030 until China has moved to reasonably modern military equipment for all of its equipment.

China is spending about one third as much as the USA on defence. China spends less on a percentage basis as well.

Even if China’s nominal GDP matches the US around 2030, China will still need longer to match the US military. It is not just one years military spending but the accumulated buildup of equipment and training of armed forces. China also spends less on a percentage basis, so China’s economy would need to be 1.5 to 2 times larger in order to match the US military budget. The collective EU economy matched or exceeded the USA for a while but the EU had far less combined military. China might be slightly more than the combined EU military some ten years after matching the US GDP.

China even targets full science and technology leader in 2050.

China is building up regional advantages where it could win conflicts over Taiwan or the South China Sea. This because of the manmade island bases and because of the ability to project power close to China. It is also because those two areas are where China has far more interest than the USA. The USA would not put up the all-out war that what would be needed to win.

China’s ICBM missiles are hidden in underground tunnel systems. China’s nuclear missiles are not prepped for launch. China recognizes how vulnerable their small number of land-based missiles are. The missiles are in underground facilities so that they can survive a first attack.

The overall number of Chinese ICBM launchers reported by DOD has remained stable since 2011: 50-75. One type (DF-4) has reload capability, so the number of available missiles is a little higher: 75-100 missiles. That number has also remained stable for the past three years. Indeed, other than the arrival of the DF-26 IRBM force, the total Chinese rocket forces estimate is identical to that of presented in the 2017 report.

China intends to use the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) to develop strong economic ties with other countries, shape their interests to align with China’s, and deter confrontation or criticism of China’s approach to sensitive issues. Some countries participating in BRI could develop economic dependencies from over-relying on Chinese capital. Some BRI investments could advance potential military advantages for China.

The PLAN is the region’s largest navy, with more than 300 surface combatants, submarines, amphibious ships, patrol craft, and specialized types. It is also an increasingly modern and flexible force.

One of the most significant PLAN structural changes in 2017 was the expansion of the PLAN Marine Corps (PLANMC). The PLANMC previously consisted of 2 brigades, approximately 10,000 personnel, and was limited in geography and mission (amphibious assault and defense of South China Sea outposts). By 2020, the PLANMC will consist of 7 brigades, may have more than 30,000 personnel, and will expand its mission to include expeditionary operations on foreign soil, as PLANMC forces are already operating out of the PLA’s base in Djibouti.

Modernization of China’s submarine force remains a high priority for the PLAN. It currently operates 4 nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN), 5 nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSN), and 47 diesel-powered attack submarines. By 2020,
this force will likely grow to between 69 and 78 submarines.

The PLAAF is the largest air force in the region and the third largest in the world. It is working to become a “strategic” air force capable of long-range power projection.

The PLAAF is the largest air force in the region and the third largest in the world, with more than 2,700 total aircraft (not including UAVs) and 2,000 combat aircraft (including fighters, strategic bombers, tactical bombers, and multimission tactical and attack aircraft).

The PLAAF continues to field fourth-generation aircraft (now about 600) and probably will become a majority fourth generation force within the next several years. The PLAAF is still developing fifth-generation fighters, including the J-20 and FC-31, and in late 2016 began importing 24 Su-35 advanced fourth-generation fighters from Russia.

China announced a stealth bomber program in 2016, and the new platform could debut sometime around 2025.

The ultimate goal of Science and Technology modernization is to rejuvenate China by 2050 as an S&T powerhouse. For the next 30 years, China’s leaders have arranged its innovation-driven development strategy into the following four major milestones:

2020: Advance domestic competence for global innovation competition. The ability to rank side-by-side with other innovation-driven countries remains a top priority under Xi Jinping. These development goals center on upgrading the industrial economy (including modern agriculture, clean and efficient energy, and 5th generation mobile telecommunications networks), building science innovation parks, and attracting top-tier researchers. China intends these projects to further advance China’s global ranking and to strengthen defense technology development between the military and civilian sectors.

2025: Reduce reliance on foreign technology. In October 2015, China’s State Council published the Made in China 2025 plan, outlining development trajectories to establish and promote China-made components, create well-known Chinese brands, and increase the domestic and international market share in 10 strategic industries. The plan aims to develop internationally competitive leading enterprises; improve technical, equipment, and quality standards to international levels; and create a long-term industrial supply chain and perfect mass production. To achieve core technology breakthroughs, the plan incentivizes accumulating patents, increasing Chinese intellectual property, and establishing engineering platforms and collaborative innovation centers for S&T. The 10 strategic industries are:

1) New generation information technology;
2) High-grade machine tooling and robotics;
3) Aerospace equipment;
4) Marine engineering equipment;
5) Advanced rail transportation equipment;
6) New-energy automobiles;
7) Electric power equipment;
8) Agricultural equipment;
9) New materials; and,
10) Biomedicine.

2030: Make milestone contributions to the global scientific community. Striving to take the lead on breakthroughs in important S&T areas, China’s 13thFive-Year Program outlines major S&T Innovation Projects for 2030 to benefit both the Chinese economy and its military. Projects include AI 2.0, national cyberspace security, aircraft engines and combustion turbines, quantum computing and quantum communication, advanced manufacturing, clean and efficient energy production, green technologies and environmental solutions, agriculture advances, biology and health, resource management in both space and ocean, and deep-earth exploration.

> China’s AI 2.0 project moves beyond its focus with AI 1.0, which centered solely on
discovering AI, to focus on the networking and intelligentization of the entire industry chain.

In July 2017, China published a national AI blueprint that lays out its R&D trajectory to achieve major breakthroughs in the AI field and become the world’s primary AI innovation center by 2030.

2050: Lead and dominate as the S&T powerhouse. China’s long-term objective remains to become the global leader in innovative scientific development.

428 thoughts on “China is still 10-20 years from matching US economy and 20-40 years from matching US military”

  1. usa never lost the war in vietbam, they just6 ran away home when the saw their own shadow. i mean those who commit crime are very scare of their own shadow

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  2. How do you know China lies a lot? ” Because the statistics do not reflect resources sunk into empty cities. Among other things.

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  3. Yes. A generation needs to be born and go to it’s grave by what force is needful not knowing the habits of thought that lead to a “Taliban”. What else do you pretend suffices? Where, idiot, did I claim that 25 years was the announced policy? So what? WWII was fought against a western society willing to accept the result of the battlefield as what would rule them from then on, Afghanistan is populated by people who think it doesn’t matter. Very persistent force to the contrary must be applied.

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  4. How do you know China lies a lot? “”Because the statistics do not reflect resources sunk into empty cities. Among other things.”””

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  5. Yes. A generation needs to be born and go to it’s grave by what force is needful not knowing the habits of thought that lead to a Taliban””. What else do you pretend suffices? Where”” idiot did I claim that 25 years was the announced policy?So what? WWII was fought against a western society willing to accept the result of the battlefield as what would rule them from then on”” Afghanistan is populated by people who think it doesn’t matter. Very persistent force to the contrary must be applied.”””

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  6. No, America left Vietnam in ’73. South Vietnam was able to destroy the communist invasion of that year with all but no US support, It was not until the treasonous Democrat Party cut off all support to the South that the North then afterwards invaded successfully. Poor little Matheus, you’re so ignorant and stupid. Iran is not winning in Iraq, in fact Free Kurdish and Iraqi forces killed of Iran’s catspaws there not long ago. Similarly, a unit of Russians was destroyed by American artillery in Syria. Seems we are very successfully there, and Iran and Russia not so much.

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  7. No dufus, Iran and Saudi have identical governments int heir effective laws, which are sharia for both. Japan is happy to have backup against thieving China. No, there is no list of any war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam, and what few war crimes US servicemen committed against policy, they were punished for if convicted. So what? That doesn’t end the treaty which gives us Guantanamo Bay.

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  8. Moron, it is not par of Cuba as long as we hold the treaty granting it to us in effect, and we do and will. ” The legitimate owner of the USA is the First Nations of the North America

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  9. No, there are no more human rights in Iran than in Saudi, both are strictly governed by sharia. Elections don’t change sharia. Actually China has invaded many countries with or without the agreement of the locals. Vietnam, Africa. Why should I care what lies Kerry told? Much of what the Left calls a war crime is not, and what was a war crime in Vietnam done by Amerindians was punished by Americans–the crime was not policy. And really, no communist should ever endorse the notion of collective guilt, because then Ill hold you responsible for the 500 million some that philosophy has killed since it’s inception. It is up to the US to decide what the US accepts as a legitimate government. For example, regardless of what Foggy Bottom pretends, there is only on legitimate government of China, and it is seated in Taiwan. And ultimately, the State marches to the President’s and Congresses’ tune. It is a revocable fiction we continue to mouth the lie that Beijing has legitimacy. I don’t care what you pretend is genocide, when I know it was not. Now what the VC tried to do to the Hmong, that was genocide. What the Khmer Rouge did, that was an attempted genocide.

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  10. For a few days. In the mean time the US invaded Vietnam and got kicked out, invaded afghanistan and they are losing, invaded Iraq and now Iran is winning there, invaded or bombed Lybia and caused disaster, etc.

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  11. A generation needs to be born and send to its grave? You look more and more like a dangerous psycho, you know? Like your friend WTA! By the way, not dangerous at all, fortunately, as the US dominance has been castrated by the resurgence of CHINA

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  12. It certainly is ours, when killing for land was the common mode of all mankind, we did it a lot better than the others there doing it.

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  13. US share of world GDP 1999     21.1 2000     20.9 2001     20.6 2002     20.4 2003     20.1 2004     19.9 2005     19.6 2006 19.1 2007     18.4 2008     17.8 2009     17.4 2010     16.9 2011     16.5 2012     16.4 (to be continued)

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  14. Less than 40 years ago they were invading Vietnam, and have since invaded the common waters of the ocean–that’s not a two way range yet, but only wait.

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  15. All habits of thought not classically liberal are poison to humanity, there is no “Asian” thought in China, only the remaining stupidities of a pre-modern society once common to all humanity, superficially ruled by outward forms predicated on the Endarkenment philosophy of Rousseau. What Britain began to reject, which culminated 1775 to 1788 in her once colonies, is the universal best known approach to human governance, and it will whelm China. i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/22/1400763772469/The-Goddess-of-Democracy–008.jpg?w=1200&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=2630c76a406d48f937d914abbcd68fd2 Tiananmen.

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  16. No America left Vietnam in ’73. South Vietnam was able to destroy the communist invasion of that year with all but no US support It was not until the treasonous Democrat Party cut off all support to the South that the North then afterwards invaded successfully.Poor little Matheus you’re so ignorant and stupid.Iran is not winning in Iraq in fact Free Kurdish and Iraqi forces killed of Iran’s catspaws there not long ago. Similarly a unit of Russians was destroyed by American artillery in Syria. Seems we are very successfully there and Iran and Russia not so much.

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  17. No dufus Iran and Saudi have identical governments int heir effective laws which are sharia for both.Japan is happy to have backup against thieving China.No there is no list of any war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam and what few war crimes US servicemen committed against policy they were punished for if convicted.So what? That doesn’t end the treaty which gives us Guantanamo Bay.

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  18. Moron it is not par of Cuba as long as we hold the treaty granting it to us in effect and we do and will. The legitimate owner of the USA is the First Nations of the North America “” “””

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  19. No there are no more human rights in Iran than in Saudi both are strictly governed by sharia. Elections don’t change sharia.Actually China has invaded many countries with or without the agreement of the locals. Vietnam Africa.Why should I care what lies Kerry told? Much of what the Left calls a war crime is not and what was a war crime in Vietnam done by Amerindians was punished by Americans–the crime was not policy. And really no communist should ever endorse the notion of collective guilt because then Ill hold you responsible for the 500 million some that philosophy has killed since it’s inception.It is up to the US to decide what the US accepts as a legitimate government. For example regardless of what Foggy Bottom pretends there is only on legitimate government of China and it is seated in Taiwan. And ultimately the State marches to the President’s and Congresses’ tune. It is a revocable fiction we continue to mouth the lie that Beijing has legitimacy.I don’t care what you pretend is genocide when I know it was not. Now what the VC tried to do to the Hmong that was genocide. What the Khmer Rouge did that was an attempted genocide.

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  20. For a few days. In the mean time the US invaded Vietnam and got kicked out invaded afghanistan and they are losing invaded Iraq and now Iran is winning there invaded or bombed Lybia and caused disaster etc.

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  21. A generation needs to be born and send to its grave? You look more and more like a dangerous psycho you know? Like your friend WTA! By the way not dangerous at all fortunately as the US dominance has been castrated by the resurgence of CHINA

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  22. It certainly is ours when killing for land was the common mode of all mankind we did it a lot better than the others there doing it.

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  23. US share of world GDP1999     21.12000     20.92001     20.62002     20.42003     20.12004     19.92005     19.62006 19.12007     18.42008     17.82009     17.42010     16.92011     16.52012     16.4(to be continued)

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  24. Less than 40 years ago they were invading Vietnam and have since invaded the common waters of the ocean–that’s not a two way range yet but only wait.

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  25. All habits of thought not classically liberal are poison to humanity there is no Asian”” thought in China”” only the remaining stupidities of a pre-modern society once common to all humanity superficially ruled by outward forms predicated on the Endarkenment philosophy of Rousseau. What Britain began to reject which culminated 1775 to 1788 in her once colonies is the universal best known approach to human governance”” and it will whelm China.i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/22/1400763772469/The-Goddess-of-Democracy–008.jpg?w=1200&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=2630c76a406d48f937d914abbcd68fd2Tiananmen.”””

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  26. If you want to have a custom part designed and built to high quality, what does it cost? Go on, work it out. A custom part or tool. Only 5 will be made. An engineer designs it. It gets reviewed by a bunch of other engineers. It’s a critical part so it has to work and not have some weakness that could cause a $100 million dollar aircraft to fail in mid air. And because it isn’t mass produced it has to be machined from single chunks of high quality steel, not moulded or forged like a mass production tool. Now combine all those costs and divide by 5 because that’s the total number made. If this is too difficult, look at other areas where similar parts are made. Ask a formula one team what the price was for that one tool they had to get made to let them assemble their hand build engines. Ask a PhD student what the system they built for their thesis costs, the full price including 5 years of scholarship, living expenses and forgone income. Now compare this to the cost of a mass produced part which is exactly like the previous 20 generations of parts so very little design was required, and they’ll make 100 000 of them so all the setup costs can be divided by 100 000. And no normal person will die if a screwdriver fails so less quality control or standards. Or maybe don’t. Because this is one of those red-flag issues where you can tell who knows what they are talking about, and who gets their knowledge of the world from watching the Daily Show.

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  27. No they have not Iran has an elected government SA hass not I am tired of teaching you things while all you can do is parrot lies you have heard from Fox news My time wit you is over Whether you are the sock of wta or not I do not care Bye

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  28. Wrong again In Iran women can drive, teach and open companies They do not need a male guardian In SA (backed by the US) women can not drive teach or open companies They need a male guardian I am really TIRED to beef up your parrotism China has never invaded africa, africa is not a country by the way Who si talking about Kerry? I am talking about the endless war crimes commit by the US in Vietnam Google “Winter solider investigation” Google Operration meny That was a massive war crime commit by the US The Government of the US accepts only Beijing as legitimate govenrment of China, not Taipei At last, I am really tired of feeding up you like a baby Please study and stop spreading lies otherwise I will ignore you like I am doing with our friend WTA. Or maybe, you ARE WTA? The lies you are spreeing look similar, so I am starting to suspect.. that you are WTA

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  29. America did not LEAVE Vietnam in 1973 America got their buttocks kicked out of Vietnam in 1973 And America is still licking their wounds in 2018 Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no Russia has a naval base in Syria Iran and Russia are expanding their influence in the Middle East You really need to learn more

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  30. The US wanted to block island building in SCS They failed They US wanted Crimea back to Ukraine They failed The US wanted Iran stop their nuclear program They failed The US wanted assad out They failed I am quite tired to feed up against your willful ingorance Smart up soon or I will ignore as I am ignoring your friend WTA Luca Ma ZZa

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  31. If you want to have a custom part designed and built to high quality what does it cost? Go on work it out. A custom part or tool. Only 5 will be made.An engineer designs it. It gets reviewed by a bunch of other engineers. It’s a critical part so it has to work and not have some weakness that could cause a $100 million dollar aircraft to fail in mid air. And because it isn’t mass produced it has to be machined from single chunks of high quality steel not moulded or forged like a mass production tool.Now combine all those costs and divide by 5 because that’s the total number made.If this is too difficult look at other areas where similar parts are made. Ask a formula one team what the price was for that one tool they had to get made to let them assemble their hand build engines. Ask a PhD student what the system they built for their thesis costs the full price including 5 years of scholarship living expenses and forgone income.Now compare this to the cost of a mass produced part which is exactly like the previous 20 generations of parts so very little design was required and they’ll make 100 000 of them so all the setup costs can be divided by 100 000. And no normal person will die if a screwdriver fails so less quality control or standards.Or maybe don’t. Because this is one of those red-flag issues where you can tell who knows what they are talking about and who gets their knowledge of the world from watching the Daily Show.

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  32. No they have not Iran has an elected government SA hass not I am tired of teaching you things while all you can do is parrot lies you have heard from Fox news My time wit you is over Whether you are the sock of wta or not I do not care Bye

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  33. Wrong again In Iran women can drive teach and open companies They do not need a male guardian In SA (backed by the US) women can not drive teach or open companies They need a male guardian I am really TIRED to beef up your parrotism China has never invaded africa africa is not a country by the way Who si talking about Kerry? I am talking about the endless war crimes commit by the US in VietnamGoogle Winter solider investigation”” Google Operration meny That was a massive war crime commit by the US The Government of the US accepts only Beijing as legitimate govenrment of China”” not Taipei At last I am really tired of feeding up you like a baby Please study and stop spreading lies otherwise I will ignore you like I am doing with our friend WTA. Or maybe you ARE WTA? The lies you are spreeing look similar”” so I am starting to suspect.. that you are WTA”””

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  34. America did not LEAVE Vietnam in 1973 America got their buttocks kicked out of Vietnam in 1973 And America is still licking their wounds in 2018 Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no Russia has a naval base in Syria Iran and Russia are expanding their influence in the Middle East You really need to learn more

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  35. The US wanted to block island building in SCS They failedThey US wanted Crimea back to Ukraine They failed The US wanted Iran stop their nuclear program They failed The US wanted assad out They failed I am quite tired to feed up against your willful ingorance Smart up soon or I will ignore as I am ignoring your friend WTA Luca Ma ZZa

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  36. This US has gone from owning 21.1% of the world economy to 16.4% of the world economy in just less than 15 years. In a few years the US will not be considered as a superpower anymore

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  37. So? How about putting up something useful like demographic information? Demographics is what is going to bite everyone in the rear … accept for those horrible Americans.

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  38. This US has gone from owning 21.1{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of the world economy to 16.4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of the world economy in just less than 15 years. In a few years the US will not be considered as a superpower anymore

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  39. So? How about putting up something useful like demographic information? Demographics is what is going to bite everyone in the rear … accept for those horrible Americans.

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  40. There are more than 200 nations in the world, all of them said North America is not yours, the colored aliens from the old continent of Europe, Asia, and Africa.

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  41. You are the one feeling being offended and denying your misdemeanor like a spoiled kid, an American national trait. Anyhow you are jihad1st, pr1mitive barbar1ans who can only annoy.

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  42. There are more than 200 nations in the world all of them said North America is not yours the colored aliens from the old continent of Europe Asia and Africa.

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  43. You are the one feeling being offended and denying your misdemeanor like a spoiled kid an American national trait. Anyhow you are jihad1st pr1mitive barbar1ans who can only annoy.

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  44. Iran has elections, but the mullahs decide which candidates will win. It’s called an illegitimate government. KSA is an absolute monarchy, but like all of them is aware it’s limitations are set by the bulk of the their powerbase within the nobility and those who are rich enough, however nouveau. What the KSA monarchy is undertaking is the radical (for Islam) liberalization of the society, putting them far ahead of Iran.

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  45. Yes, we pretty much did. In 1973. The South fielded almost 1mn in their armed forces, the US has just 7% of that in the country to start and finished the year with only 50. During this time the South crushed an NVA invasion. It is Vietnam still licking their self inflicted wounds, chief among the the stupidity of adopting communism, which as always can only be a criminal form of government. ” Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no

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  46. Iran has elections but the mullahs decide which candidates will win. It’s called an illegitimate government. KSA is an absolute monarchy but like all of them is aware it’s limitations are set by the bulk of the their powerbase within the nobility and those who are rich enough however nouveau. What the KSA monarchy is undertaking is the radical (for Islam) liberalization of the society putting them far ahead of Iran.

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  47. Yes we pretty much did. In 1973. The South fielded almost 1mn in their armed forces the US has just 7{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of that in the country to start and finished the year with only 50. During this time the South crushed an NVA invasion. It is Vietnam still licking their self inflicted wounds chief among the the stupidity of adopting communism which as always can only be a criminal form of government. Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no “” “””

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  48. In Iran mullahs decide which candidates win, in the United states it is the megadonors Not so much difference Liberalization of Islam in SA? What are you smoking? Must be good! They have even a religious police in SA They kill people for sorcery in SA You really have no clue what you are talking about and I am tired to having to teach a kid who has no will to learn Good bye kid

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  49. The TET offensive that crushed South Vietnam AND the US started well before the US withdrawal from Vietnam Whether the Communist Govrnment is stupid or not, this is nothing that interests you as you are not I assume a Viet citizen. So shut the crap out please and that Iran’s mullahs are about to be overthrown. -> The US has been trying this since 1979 and never achieved and today Iran is way stronger than before and has way more influence in Iraq and Syria than before. None of your insults touches me You are out Go to discuss with your other troll WTA in case you are not the same person

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  50. I have provided you with actual facts that you can check and you mock me with an ad-hominem You are incapable of a decent discussion Time out for you Bye

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  51. In Iran mullahs decide which candidates win in the United states it is the megadonors Not so much difference Liberalization of Islam in SA? What are you smoking? Must be good! They have even a religious police in SAThey kill people for sorcery in SA You really have no clue what you are talking about and I am tired to having to teach a kid who has no will to learn Good bye kid

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  52. The TET offensive that crushed South Vietnam AND the US started well before the US withdrawal from Vietnam Whether the Communist Govrnment is stupid or not this is nothing that interests you as you are not I assume a Viet citizen. So shut the crap out please and that Iran’s mullahs are about to be overthrown.-> The US has been trying this since 1979 and never achieved and today Iran is way stronger than before and has way more influence in Iraq and Syria than before. None of your insults touches me You are out Go to discuss with your other troll WTA in case you are not the same person

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  53. I have provided you with actual facts that you can check and you mock me with an ad-hominem You are incapable of a decent discussion Time out for you Bye

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  54. Working hard for your 50cents, Joe? Was your sister kidnapped form the farm and now you have to pay ransom to get her back or she’ll be forced-married to some Cantonese pig in the city?

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  55. Working hard for your 50cents Joe?Was your sister kidnapped form the farm and now you have to pay ransom to get her back or she’ll be forced-married to some Cantonese pig in the city?

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  56. I would agree with that and I believe that has been the stance of much of the U.S. electorate, many world governments, and the official stance of the Chinese government for quite awhile now. Zero-sum political games have a habit of causing far too much trouble than they’re worth.

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  57. I would agree with that and I believe that has been the stance of much of the U.S. electorate many world governments and the official stance of the Chinese government for quite awhile now. Zero-sum political games have a habit of causing far too much trouble than they’re worth.

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  58. It is hard to argue history when you don’t know it. The Vietnam war did not end with the TET offensive but it was a turning point. Your insults don’t hurt us either. In fact, they kind of tickle.

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  59. Well, you are 1/3 correct. I am an educated redneck. I run 6 warehouse inventory systems and, if I do say so myself, I am also a decent programmer. Please, that colonial crap wont fly. The US doesn’t need colonies. Do you know how much land and resources North America has? I doubt you can grasp the sheer size of the continent.

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  60. Wow you got me there! It sad that America gets a smaller piece of a bigger pie. Yeah, in a few years the US will still be the one and only Superpower. Many others will have nuclear ballistic missiles but not the ability to project power. Those that do have the ability to project power are US allies.

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  61. It is hard to argue history when you don’t know it. The Vietnam war did not end with the TET offensive but it was a turning point.Your insults don’t hurt us either. In fact they kind of tickle.

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  62. Well you are 1/3 correct. I am an educated redneck. I run 6 warehouse inventory systems and if I do say so myself I am also a decent programmer. Please that colonial crap wont fly. The US doesn’t need colonies. Do you know how much land and resources North America has? I doubt you can grasp the sheer size of the continent.

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  63. Wow you got me there! It sad that America gets a smaller piece of a bigger pie. Yeah in a few years the US will still be the one and only Superpower. Many others will have nuclear ballistic missiles but not the ability to project power. Those that do have the ability to project power are US allies.

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  64. Good summary. Good advice. Here’s a soft stat to add to your collection: On July 1, 2021, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. On that day there will be more poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China. Not relatively, not per capita. In absolute numbers.

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  65. Hi Dexter, welcome to NBF (just be careful to post here as there are a few right-wing trolls). I was going to write a thoughtful comment about this article, but you beat me at it. More or less you said everything I wanted to say (even more) I would add that: 1) counting the GDP, you need to include Taiwan and Macau to the count. Which means that China` s GDP s already $1T or so higher than what we have on WIkipedia 2) there are few areas where China is lagging, mainly in the production of jets and jet engines But they will be doing this soon The last nail in the coffin of the US Empire will happen when countries will start to dump the US dollar and use the Yuan. That day, the day this happens, will be rememebered as the day of the fall of the US Empire I predict this will happen in the next 3 to 5 years Luca Mazza – independent thinker

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  66. Hello all. This is my first comment ever here. If we’re comparing military budgets, we should use GDP PPP percentage not nominal Almost all technologies are developed in China and equipment is built in China by Chinese. According to newest data China GDP PPP in 2019 will be around $27 trillion USA GDP PPP in 2019 will be around $21 trillion Currently, the gap is widening by more than a trillion $ each passing year (in GDP PPP) This year China is adding more than $2 trillion to its PPP, the size of South Korea or Turkey economy. In a 3-4 years they will be adding $3 trillion, the size od UK economy. Even with less percentage of GDP devoted to military, China will have the same budget in just few years because in a few years China GDP PPP will be 50% bigger than US PPP, it already is 30% bigger. And I am sure that not only PPP but percentage on military will also increase significantly. They strategy is leapfrogging USA not matching current tech. Why to built 12 aircraftcarriers each worth 10 billions when you can develop fastest missiles in the world (each worth few millions) and simply sink aircraft by sending few tens of them at the same time. China is adding almost 9 times more scientists and engineers(recent young graduates) to workforce than US each year. And the gap is also widening because number of graduates in China each passing year is growing by around 250-300k. So in a few years it will be 10 times more STEM graduates than US. I am even not counting 300k Chinese which are graduating in US and returning now home + the fact than in US engineers and scientists around 65 are retiring now, so in US productive STEM workforce is shrinking. China is adding full 8,5 million of them because in 1978 the number of STEM graduates was miniscule. In last 3 years and in the next 3 years China will train more engineers and scientists than USA did in last 25-30 years. Due to these facts, in my opinion China will catch up in less than 5 years and after matchi

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  67. Good summary. Good advice. Here’s a soft stat to add to your collection: On July 1 2021 every Chinese will have a home a job plenty of food education safe streets health and old age care. On that day there will be more poor hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China. Not relatively not per capita. In absolute numbers.”

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  68. Hi Dexter welcome to NBF (just be careful to post here as there are a few right-wing trolls). I was going to write a thoughtful comment about this article but you beat me at it. More or less you said everything I wanted to say (even more) I would add that:1) counting the GDP you need to include Taiwan and Macau to the count. Which means that China` s GDP s already $1T or so higher than what we have on WIkipedia 2) there are few areas where China is lagging mainly in the production of jets and jet engines But they will be doing this soon The last nail in the coffin of the US Empire will happen when countries will start to dump the US dollar and use the Yuan. That day the day this happens will be rememebered as the day of the fall of the US Empire I predict this will happen in the next 3 to 5 years Luca Mazza – independent thinker

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  69. Hello all.This is my first comment ever here.If we’re comparing military budgets we should use GDP PPP percentage not nominalAlmost all technologies are developed in China and equipment is built in China by Chinese.According to newest data China GDP PPP in 2019 will be around $27 trillionUSA GDP PPP in 2019 will be around $21 trillionCurrently the gap is widening by more than a trillion $ each passing year (in GDP PPP)This year China is adding more than $2 trillion to its PPP the size of South Korea or Turkey economy.In a 3-4 years they will be adding $3 trillion the size od UK economy.Even with less percentage of GDP devoted to military China will have the same budget in just few years because in a few years China GDP PPP will be 50{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} bigger than US PPP it already is 30{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} bigger.And I am sure that not only PPP but percentage on military will also increase significantly.They strategy is leapfrogging USA not matching current tech. Why to built 12 aircraftcarriers each worth 10 billions when you can develop fastest missiles in the world (each worth few millions) and simply sink aircraft by sending few tens of them at the same time.China is adding almost 9 times more scientists and engineers(recent young graduates) to workforce than US each year. And the gap is also widening because number of graduates in China each passing year is growing by around 250-300k.So in a few years it will be 10 times more STEM graduates than US. I am even not counting 300k Chinese which are graduating in US and returning now home + the fact than in US engineers and scientists around 65 are retiring now so in US productive STEM workforce is shrinking.China is adding full 85 million of them because in 1978 the number of STEM graduates was miniscule.In last 3 years and in the next 3 years China will train more e

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  70. China may not succeed in knocking us off our high horse, As they grow rapidly many of the advantages that everyone speaks of will vanish just like they did in the USA, and the people in china are not all in lockstep with each other so civil unrest may creep in later. Being so dependent on trade and specifcally the USA buying their products, tarriffs will have an impact on their economy. I am a proud American but would say its at least 50/50 chance they become the next dominant power.

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  71. The major problem with the Chinese military is lack of overall experience. Their last military experience is the Korean War. They don’t have any real war time air force or naval experience.

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  72. A severe Chinese recession is missing in this projection. It has to happen. An economy cannot grow for a long time without developing weaknesses that will break during any downturn.

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  73. No doubt we could pick quite a few of those claims apart, but who has the time? Let’s just take the last one. Old age care? Really? One of the biggest problems they have on their plate? Find another source other than a Chinese government official or a shill for one. The old age problem in China is insanely bad. Someone has either fed you the Big Lie or you are trying to pass it off on us. If so, go collect your fifty cents.

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  74. China may not succeed in knocking us off our high horse As they grow rapidly many of the advantages that everyone speaks of will vanish just like they did in the USA and the people in china are not all in lockstep with each other so civil unrest may creep in later. Being so dependent on trade and specifcally the USA buying their products tarriffs will have an impact on their economy. I am a proud American but would say its at least 50/50 chance they become the next dominant power.

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  75. The major problem with the Chinese military is lack of overall experience. Their last military experience is the Korean War. They don’t have any real war time air force or naval experience.

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  76. A severe Chinese recession is missing in this projection. It has to happen. An economy cannot grow for a long time without developing weaknesses that will break during any downturn.

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  77. No doubt we could pick quite a few of those claims apart but who has the time? Let’s just take the last one. Old age care? Really? One of the biggest problems they have on their plate? Find another source other than a Chinese government official or a shill for one. The old age problem in China is insanely bad. Someone has either fed you the Big Lie or you are trying to pass it off on us. If so go collect your fifty cents.

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  78. No such thing as a $10,000 hammer. There was a torque wrench custom machined out of titanium safe materials used on ICBM nosecones that was pretty pricey, but then they only ever had two made.

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  79. No, there is none. There is no place on this planet where our forces are, where they are not either invited to be there, or, there as a result of our attempts to end a crime against humanity. There is no place we are there to take what was not already ours, no place we are filibustering for unearned prosperity. And that is going to continue for a very long time.

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  80. Won’t happen because they’ve rigged their SOE system to make sure that recessions are not allowed. Now, if they lost market access to the US or their oil supplies were intercepted in a war…well, that would be an external shock that would cause one.

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  81. Not just tariffs but non-tariff barriers. Remember, the US Navy will not be protecting their commercial shipping half a world away anymore.

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  82. China has greater foreign oil dependency than the USA.” Yes…but with which nation is that dependency growing with? The same one the Japanese depended on in the 1930s. The one that embargoed those oil supplies that led the Japanese to go to war with said nation on Dec 7 1941. And the GDP growth gap is narrowing between the US and China. China’s ‘official’ (as in what Cult Leader Xi declared and the rest of China regurgitates whenever asked) GDP is 6 point whatever %. Ours is quickly approaching 4%. And China’s is probably more like 4 – 5% in reality, too. And 4% increase of US GDP is larger than China’s 6 point whatever % of Chinese GDP. And our GDP is for a lot of investment into the capital stock for productive output than it is for non-productive — more for manufacturing than for mortgages (although we still pour too much capital into mortgages) thanks to changes in the tax code that promote such activity and gutting productivity-killing regulations.

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  83. No such thing as a $10000 hammer. There was a torque wrench custom machined out of titanium safe materials used on ICBM nosecones that was pretty pricey but then they only ever had two made.

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  84. No there is none. There is no place on this planet where our forces are where they are not either invited to be there or there as a result of our attempts to end a crime against humanity. There is no place we are there to take what was not already ours no place we are filibustering for unearned prosperity.And that is going to continue for a very long time.

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  85. Won’t happen because they’ve rigged their SOE system to make sure that recessions are not allowed.Now if they lost market access to the US or their oil supplies were intercepted in a war…well that would be an external shock that would cause one.

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  86. Not just tariffs but non-tariff barriers. Remember the US Navy will not be protecting their commercial shipping half a world away anymore.

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  87. China has greater foreign oil dependency than the USA.””Yes…but with which nation is that dependency growing with? The same one the Japanese depended on in the 1930s. The one that embargoed those oil supplies that led the Japanese to go to war with said nation on Dec 7 1941.And the GDP growth gap is narrowing between the US and China.China’s ‘official’ (as in what Cult Leader Xi declared and the rest of China regurgitates whenever asked) GDP is 6 point whatever {22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. Ours is quickly approaching 4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. And China’s is probably more like 4 – 5{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} in reality”””” too.And 4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} increase of US GDP is larger than China’s 6 point whatever {22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of Chinese GDP. And our GDP is for a lot of investment into the capital stock for productive output than it is for non-productive — more for manufacturing than for mortgages (although we still pour too much capital into mortgages) thanks to changes in the tax code that promote such activity and gutting productivity-killing regulations.”””

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  88. I love it when you ‘two’ pretend to ‘talk’ to each other. Yes, everyone…Matheus and Tommy here are the same troll, Matteo Martini. bit.ly/2nNvYlk

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  89. On July 1, 2021, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. ” Hahahahahahaha! OId age care in China means = daughter in law takes care of you. So the fact that they’ve killed off most of those daughter-in-laws via abortion over the last 40 years means you are wrong to spout that China propaganda right then and there.

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  90. If we’re comparing military budgets, we should use GDP PPP percentage not nominal ” So when the Canadians buy German Leopard tanks and US F-35s, this makes sense? No.

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  91. I think you are going to be sadly disappointed for the rest of your life. Without trade and without protected trade routes China is a dead man walking. It is the LAST stop for oil from the Persian Gulf and their navy is not going to be ready in time.

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  92. I love it when you ‘two’ pretend to ‘talk’ to each other.Yes everyone…Matheus and Tommy here are the same troll Matteo Martini.bit.ly/2nNvYlk

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  93. On July 12021 every Chinese will have a home a job plenty of food education safe streets” health and old age care. “”Hahahahahahaha! OId age care in China means = daughter in law takes care of you.So the fact that they’ve killed off most of those daughter-in-laws via abortion over the last 40 years means you are wrong to spout that China propaganda right then and there.”””

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  94. If we’re comparing military budgets” we should use GDP PPP percentage not nominal “”So when the Canadians buy German Leopard tanks and US F-35s”””” this makes sense? No.”””

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  95. I think you are going to be sadly disappointed for the rest of your life.Without trade and without protected trade routes China is a dead man walking. It is the LAST stop for oil from the Persian Gulf and their navy is not going to be ready in time.

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  96. The U.S. Federal Reserve commissioned researchers to investigate this. Their report, ‘On The Reliability of Chinese Output Figures’, concluded, “Some commentators have questioned whether China’s economy slowed more in 2012 than official gross domestic product figures indicate. However, the 2012 reported output and industrial production figures are consistent both with alternative Chinese indicators of the country’s economic activity, such as electricity production, and trade volume measures reported by non-Chinese sources. These alternative domestic and foreign sources provide no evidence that China’s economic growth was slower than official data http://indicate”.www.frbsf.org/e…. Then The Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., decided it wanted to verify the data independently. Their 2015 report, Broken Abacus, stunned experts by concluding that China’s economy is 15 percent larger than official figures.

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  97. I admire your optimism about China’s approaching doom. Perhaps you’ve been getting your information from our media? 1990. The Economist. China’s economy has come to a halt. 1996. The Economist. China’s economy will face a hard landing 1998. The Economist: China’s economy dangerous period of sluggish growth. 1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy. 2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin. 2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in China. 2002. Westchester University: China Seeks a Soft Economic Landing 2003. New York Times: Banking crisis imperils China 2004. The Economist: The great fall of China? 2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in China 2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? 2007. TIME: Can China avoid a hard landing? 2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China?  2009. Fortune: China’s hard landing. China must find a way to recover. 2010: Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China. 2011: Business Insider: Chinese Hard Landing Closer Than You Think 2012: American Interest: Economic News from China: A Hard Landing  2013: Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China  2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China. 2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing.  2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China 2017. National Interest: Is China’s Economy Going To Crash? 2018. The Daily Reckoning: China’s Coming Financial Meltdown

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  98. No they won’t. Because they are aging just like the Europeans and Japanese. More so, thanks to their 1 child policy. By 2021, China will be poor, and desperate. Poor because they didn’t become rich enough before the US decided to cut them off from the US consumer market. Desperate, because their oil, food and mineral supply lines will be vulnerable as the US Navy will not be securing those for free anymore. China is very vulnerable and we are pushing the buttons. Remember, the ONLY reason why we cozied up to them like we did was purely for Cold War reasons. Cold War has been over since 1993.

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  99. Less burdened by debt? Remember the Obama stimulus package? Eight hundred billion dollars. The Chinese government loans out that much money EVERY 17 days. So much for ‘far less burdened by debt’. Their BS ‘official’ GDP growth rate for this year is 6%. Our REAL GDP growth rate for this year is approaching 4%. And as the US cuts more and more imports from China off, that already short delta in growth rates will diminish even further still. And w/o US consumers and secure supply/trade lines, their growth rates will collapse fast. China will not be ‘far less burdened by debt’ nor have an economy 50% larger than ours. But you need to make your wu mau pay….

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  100. China will not be ‘far less burdened by debt’ nor have an economy 50% larger than ours. Their BS ‘official’ GDP growth rate for this year is 6%. Our REAL GDP growth rate for this year is approaching 4%. And as the US cuts more and more imports from China off, that already short delta in growth rates will diminish even further still. As for debt: Remember the Obama stimulus package? Eight hundred billion dollars. The Chinese government loans out that much money EVERY 17 days. So much for ‘far less burdened by debt’.

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  101. Why not pick this apart while you’re at it: On July 1, 2021, 800,000,000 urban Chinese will have have more disposable income than 350,000,000 Americans.

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  102. And, to add to your joy, on that day China’s economy will be 50% bigger than ours and growing three times faster (and far less burdened by debt). Won’t that be a blast?

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  103. Nothing wrong with ambitions, every country has that or should have it, and why does it even need to be an adversarial situation? Both the US and China can advance and prosper at the same time.

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  104. The U.S. Federal Reserve commissioned researchers to investigate this. Their report ‘On The Reliability of Chinese Output Figures’ concluded “Some commentators have questioned whether China’s economy slowed more in 2012 than official gross domestic product figures indicate. However the 2012 reported output and industrial production figures are consistent both with alternative Chinese indicators of the country’s economic activity such as electricity production and trade volume measures reported by non-Chinese sources. These alternative domestic and foreign sources provide no evidence that China’s economic growth was slower than official data http://indicate”.www.frbsf.org/e….Then The Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington D.C. decided it wanted to verify the data independently. Their 2015 report Broken Abacus stunned experts by concluding that China’s economy is 15 percent larger than official figures.”

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  105. I admire your optimism about China’s approaching doom. Perhaps you’ve been getting your information from our media?1990. The Economist. China’s economy has come to a halt.1996. The Economist. China’s economy will face a hard landing1998. The Economist: China’s economy dangerous period of sluggish growth.1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy.2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin. 2001. Wilbanks Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in China. 2002. Westchester University: China Seeks a Soft Economic Landing 2003. New York Times: Banking crisis imperils China 2004. The Economist: The great fall of China? 2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in China 2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft Landing?2007. TIME: Can China avoid a hard landing?2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China? 2009. Fortune: China’s hard landing. China must find a way to recover. 2010: Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.2011: Business Insider: Chinese Hard Landing Closer Than You Think2012: American Interest: Economic News from China: A Hard Landing  2013: Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China 2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China. 2015. Forbes: Congratulations You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing. 2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China2017. National Interest: Is China’s Economy Going To Crash?2018. The Daily Reckoning: China’s Coming Financial Meltdown”

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  106. You have been misinformed about China’s debt. Perhaps that’s because you’ve been getting your information from Western media–which 94{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of us do not trust.If you want reliable information about Chinese debt with abundant sources readhttps://www.unz.com/article/chinas-financial-debt-everything-you-know-is-wrong/”

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  107. No they won’t. Because they are aging just like the Europeans and Japanese. More so thanks to their 1 child policy.By 2021 China will be poor and desperate. Poor because they didn’t become rich enough before the US decided to cut them off from the US consumer market. Desperate because their oil food and mineral supply lines will be vulnerable as the US Navy will not be securing those for free anymore.China is very vulnerable and we are pushing the buttons. Remember the ONLY reason why we cozied up to them like we did was purely for Cold War reasons. Cold War has been over since 1993.

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  108. Less burdened by debt?Remember the Obama stimulus package? Eight hundred billion dollars. The Chinese government loans out that much money EVERY 17 days. So much for ‘far less burdened by debt’.Their BS ‘official’ GDP growth rate for this year is 6{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. Our REAL GDP growth rate for this year is approaching 4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. And as the US cuts more and more imports from China off that already short delta in growth rates will diminish even further still. And w/o US consumers and secure supply/trade lines their growth rates will collapse fast.China will not be ‘far less burdened by debt’ nor have an economy 50{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} larger than ours. But you need to make your wu mau pay….

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  109. China will not be ‘far less burdened by debt’ nor have an economy 50{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} larger than ours. Their BS ‘official’ GDP growth rate for this year is 6{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. Our REAL GDP growth rate for this year is approaching 4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}. And as the US cuts more and more imports from China off that already short delta in growth rates will diminish even further still.As for debt:Remember the Obama stimulus package? Eight hundred billion dollars. The Chinese government loans out that much money EVERY 17 days.So much for ‘far less burdened by debt’.

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  110. Why not pick this apart while you’re at it: On July 1 2021 800000000 urban Chinese will have have more disposable income than 350000000 Americans.

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  111. And to add to your joy on that day China’s economy will be 50{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} bigger than ours and growing three times faster (and far less burdened by debt).Won’t that be a blast?

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  112. Nothing wrong with ambitions every country has that or should have it and why does it even need to be an adversarial situation? Both the US and China can advance and prosper at the same time.

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  113. http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-30/news/vw-18804_1_nut $37 screws, a $7,622 coffee maker, $640 toilet seats; : suppliers to our military just won’t be oversold >Other items offered in the catalogue include a $285 screwdriver, a $7,622 coffee maker, a $387 flat washer, a $469 wrench, a $214 flashlight, a $437 tape measure, a $2,228 monkey wrench, a $748 pair of duckbill pliers, a $74,165 aluminum ladder, a $659 ashtray and a $240- million airplane. >The book also lists a claw hammer sold by Gould Simulation Systems to the Navy for $435. In the picture it looks like the kind you can buy at any hardware store for $10.

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  114. They can not and they will not The US wants to impose the dollar as reserve currency and China wants the Yuan At the moment it has to be the US It is the US who wins Tomorrow it will be China

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  115. http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-30/news/vw-18804_1_nut$37 screws a $7622 coffee maker $640 toilet seats; : suppliers to our military just won’t be oversold>Other items offered in the catalogue include a $285 screwdriver a $7622 coffee maker a $387 flat washer a $469 wrench a $214 flashlight a $437 tape measure a $2228 monkey wrench a $748 pair of duckbill pliers a $74165 aluminum ladder a $659 ashtray and a $240- million airplane.>The book also lists a claw hammer sold by Gould Simulation Systems to the Navy for $435. In the picture it looks like the kind you can buy at any hardware store for $10.

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  116. It will not During the 2008-2009 recession the US growth went to zero while CHina stayed >4{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}

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  117. They can not and they will not The US wants to impose the dollar as reserve currency and China wants the Yuan At the moment it has to be the US It is the US who wins Tomorrow it will be China

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  118. A full generation time? This is news to me. please provide me a link from 2001 when the US Government said it would have taken 25 years to win afghanistan. Even WWII lasted 6 years

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  119. How do you know China lies a lot? is it the Whiteman’s words must be taken as given truth, or the Whiteman is a god chosen one, or Collen Powell told the truth about the WMD in Iraq? Hay, what the hack, the American is exceptional, even their bombing, killing and waterboarding on the fake news is humanitarian intervention.

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  120. Since when we know that war in Afghanistan was supposed to last that much? I think the legitimacy for that war was that it should have been won quickly

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  121. You are quite wrong on all cases, because the categories are “where we are wanted” and “where we are acting to prevent crimes against humanity”. We are wanted in Saudi and Japan, where we are needed counterweights against the corrupt authoritarian states Iran and China respectively. There were no crimes against humanity committed by the United States in Vietnam, and what few US soldiers there did that were crimes, were prosecuted by the US. We are not in Cuba, we are in Guantanamo Bay (and we’re keeping it until there’s a legitimate Cuban government to which to hand it over to). Of course, you are just a troll same as WarrenTheApe is.

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  122. Saudi Arabia , Afghanistan and Cuba are all examples where the local population do not want US forces You can probably add Japan there Crimes against humanity have been commit by the US (Vietnam, South East Asia, etc.) or supported by the US. This is not going to continue for any long time, as China is taking over

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  123. A full generation time? This is news to me. please provide me a link from 2001 when the US Government said it would have taken 25 years to win afghanistan. Even WWII lasted 6 years

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  124. How do you know China lies a lot? is it the Whiteman’s words must be taken as given truth or the Whiteman is a god chosen one or Collen Powell told the truth about the WMD in Iraq? Hay what the hack the American is exceptional even their bombing killing and waterboarding on the fake news is humanitarian intervention.

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  125. Since when we know that war in Afghanistan was supposed to last that much? I think the legitimacy for that war was that it should have been won quickly

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  126. You are quite wrong on all cases because the categories are where we are wanted”” and “”””where we are acting to prevent crimes against humanity””””. We are wanted in Saudi and Japan”” where we are needed counterweights against the corrupt authoritarian states Iran and China respectively. There were no crimes against humanity committed by the United States in Vietnam and what few US soldiers there did that were crimes were prosecuted by the US. We are not in Cuba we are in Guantanamo Bay (and we’re keeping it until there’s a legitimate Cuban government to which to hand it over to).Of course”” you are just a troll same as WarrenTheApe is.”””

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  127. Protected from .. who? China does not have many enemies. And they are growing 7{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} per year. The US growing 2{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}

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  128. Saudi Arabia Afghanistan and Cuba are all examples where the local population do not want US forces You can probably add Japan there Crimes against humanity have been commit by the US (Vietnam South East Asia etc.) or supported by the US. This is not going to continue for any long time as China is taking over

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  129. USA is 10,000 miles away on the other side of the Pacific. USA is not an Asian nation, and American is an alien to Asia, American became rich and powerful through imperialism, colonialism, selling opium, religious indoctrination of the conquered, ethnic cleansing, genocide, slavery, racial discrimination, regime change, weapons trade, shock and awe, skillful propaganda, etc. American is a toxin and a plague to Asian, They have done enough damage to Asian already, they are not wanted, not invited and not loved in Asia, go home Yankee.

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  130. Nope. Just calling a wu mau rat a wu mau rat. Given how you are one of those, I can understand why you don’t like others learning of that.

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  131. You have been misinformed about China’s debt.” No, I have not. Unlike you, I properly consider the debt loads racked up by the SOEs to be Chinese government debt. You do not.

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  132. North America is not yours, the white aliens from the old continent of Europe. It belongs to the First Nations of the North America. The people of the First Nations of the North America did not invite you lot to come, they did not want your culture and they did not love you lot, and there is no such thing called God, you lot said it gave the USA land to you. Why don’t you squatters leave the land you stole from the natives via force, lies, genocides and all kind of criminal deeds first and go back to where you come from, the old continent of Europe?

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  133. Guantanamo Bay is not in Cuba? Are you saying Washington is not in the USA? What kind of Geography you studied in the school? The American exceptionalism geography? The legitimate owner of the USA is the First Nations of the North America, they are asking how long are you, the uninvited, the unwanted and unloved aliens going to hold their homeland? And when are you the illegitimate lot going to return their homeland back to them?

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  134. No crimes against humanity committed by the United States in Vietnam? It seems you are denying the International Human Rights Watch’s finding about the American war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace committed by the Americans in Vietnam, and the living evidence of hundreds of thousands of deformed new born babies in Vietnam due to the Agent Orange spread by the American, hectares upon hectares of unexplored cluster bomblets dropped by the American in Vietnam that are still maiming and killing Vietnamese nowadays, etc. Have you read “Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam by Nick Turse? Nick wrote this book based on the Pentagon’s files, you know. Unrepentant war criminal Japanese needs to learn a trick or two from you. It is time for the American to show remorse to the Vietnamese about the harm they did to the Vietnamese, denying is so morally defunct.

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  135. Saudi Arabia is a much worse government in vurtyally all respects than Iran . Japan does now and did not want the US, they had to accept the bases as they lost !!IIWWII There is a LOOOOONG list of war crimes commit buy by the US in Vietnam Google “US war crimes in Vietnam” and you will be surprised The curreent Cuban government is accepted at the United Noations, so it is the official one you lose this one too

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  136. USA is 10000 miles away on the other side of the Pacific. USA is not an Asian nation and American is an alien to Asia American became rich and powerful through imperialism colonialism selling opium religious indoctrination of the conquered ethnic cleansing genocide slavery racial discrimination regime change weapons trade shock and awe skillful propaganda etc. American is a toxin and a plague to Asian They have done enough damage to Asian already they are not wanted not invited and not loved in Asia go home Yankee.

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  137. Nope. Just calling a wu mau rat a wu mau rat.Given how you are one of those I can understand why you don’t like others learning of that.

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  138. You have been misinformed about China’s debt.””No”” I have not. Unlike you”” I properly consider the debt loads racked up by the SOEs to be Chinese government debt. You do not.”””

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  139. North America is not yours the white aliens from the old continent of Europe. It belongs to the First Nations of the North America. The people of the First Nations of the North America did not invite you lot to come they did not want your culture and they did not love you lot and there is no such thing called God you lot said it gave the USA land to you. Why don’t you squatters leave the land you stole from the natives via force lies genocides and all kind of criminal deeds first and go back to where you come from the old continent of Europe?

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  140. Guantanamo Bay is not in Cuba? Are you saying Washington is not in the USA? What kind of Geography you studied in the school? The American exceptionalism geography? The legitimate owner of the USA is the First Nations of the North America they are asking how long are you the uninvited the unwanted and unloved aliens going to hold their homeland? And when are you the illegitimate lot going to return their homeland back to them?

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  141. No crimes against humanity committed by the United States in Vietnam? It seems you are denying the International Human Rights Watch’s finding about the American war crimes crimes against humanity and crimes against peace committed by the Americans in Vietnam and the living evidence of hundreds of thousands of deformed new born babies in Vietnam due to the Agent Orange spread by the American hectares upon hectares of unexplored cluster bomblets dropped by the American in Vietnam that are still maiming and killing Vietnamese nowadays etc.Have you read Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam by Nick Turse? Nick wrote this book based on the Pentagon’s files” you know. Unrepentant war criminal Japanese needs to learn a trick or two from you.It is time for the American to show remorse to the Vietnamese about the harm they did to the Vietnamese” denying is so morally defunct.”

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  142. Saudi Arabia is a much worse government in vurtyally all respects than Iran . Japan does now and did not want the US they had to accept the bases as they lost !!IIWWII There is a LOOOOONG list of war crimes commit buy by the US in Vietnam Google US war crimes in Vietnam”” and you will be surprised The curreent Cuban government is accepted at the United Noations”””” so it is the official one you lose this one too”””

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  143. China has NO friends and many enemies (their neighbors). Any country that wants China’s oil BEFORE it gets to China will TAKE it if America isn’t patrolling the sea lanes. Remember, China’s success depends on clear shipping routes. If they can’t guarantee shipping they are screwed.

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  144. China fought the way it always fights … by sending overwhelming numbers of troops. That kind of tactic won’t work anymore, not against a technically superior foe. The wars may have been “lost” but they still accomplished America’s strategic goals (ok, some of them were just stupid … Balkans in the late 90s).

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  145. China has NO friends and many enemies (their neighbors). Any country that wants China’s oil BEFORE it gets to China will TAKE it if America isn’t patrolling the sea lanes. Remember China’s success depends on clear shipping routes. If they can’t guarantee shipping they are screwed.

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  146. China fought the way it always fights … by sending overwhelming numbers of troops. That kind of tactic won’t work anymore not against a technically superior foe. The wars may have been lost”” but they still accomplished America’s strategic goals (ok”””” some of them were just stupid … Balkans in the late 90s).”””

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  147. How many times did China do war with their neighbors ? In the last 70 years almost no war. The US has been involved in many wars You are factually wrong

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  148. True. As of 2018 As the US is still the biggest economy in real terms In 3-4 years all projections (most) give China passing the US At that time, the yuan will be the reserve and the US dollar will be dumped And this will be the lat nail in the US reserve curency empire coffin

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  149. You are excusing massive war crimes using the line of “we are here to prvent other crimes” More or less the excuse that Hitler used to start WWII or Italy used with Ethipia.. You are wrong in all cases 1) Human rights in SA are much worse than Iran so what you are saying is bullsnort Iran has an elected govt SA does not 2) China has not invaded countries in the last 50 years, or maybe one for a few days , the US invaded a lot, so you are wrong here as well 3) Few crimes US in Vietnam? What do you smoke? Must be good! Google “Winter Soldier Vietnam” and learn dude 4) It is not up to the US but to the UN to decide what is a “legitimate government ” and Cuba is a member of the UN, You are just supporting aggression against Cuba In other words, you are just cowardly supporting and whitewashing massinve war crimes and genocides abgainst population (Operation Menu) as you do not care about the lives of people who are not your fellow citizens. At least, the Nazis had more spine. As for WTA, it is me who did this : https://bit.ly/2MeWYZT Luca Mazza

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  150. You can’t impose a reserve currency. Either countries want to use a currency or they don’t. At the moment everyone in the world wants American dollars. Just ask any Iranian, Venezuelan or Turkish citizen which currency they would rather hold.

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  151. How many times did China do war with their neighbors ? In the last 70 years almost no war. The US has been involved in many wars You are factually wrong

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  152. True. As of 2018 As the US is still the biggest economy in real terms In 3-4 years all projections (most) give China passing the US At that time the yuan will be the reserve and the US dollar will be dumped And this will be the lat nail in the US reserve curency empire coffin

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  153. You are excusing massive war crimes using the line of we are here to prvent other crimes”” More or less the excuse that Hitler used to start WWII or Italy used with Ethipia.. You are wrong in all cases 1) Human rights in SA are much worse than Iran so what you are saying is bullsnort Iran has an elected govt SA does not 2) China has not invaded countries in the last 50 years”” or maybe one for a few days the US invaded a lot”” so you are wrong here as well 3) Few crimes US in Vietnam? What do you smoke? Must be good! Google “”””Winter Soldier Vietnam”””” and learn dude 4) It is not up to the US but to the UN to decide what is a “”””legitimate government “””” and Cuba is a member of the UN”” You are just supporting aggression against Cuba In other words you are just cowardly supporting and whitewashing massinve war crimes and genocides abgainst population (Operation Menu) as you do not care about the lives of people who are not your fellow citizens. At least the Nazis had more spine. As for WTA”” it is me who did this : https://bit.ly/2MeWYZTLuca Mazza”””

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  154. You can’t impose a reserve currency. Either countries want to use a currency or they don’t. At the moment everyone in the world wants American dollars. Just ask any Iranian Venezuelan or Turkish citizen which currency they would rather hold.

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  155. It is kind of interesting how Joe writes in broken English in one post and perfect English in others. It is almost like he is more than one person … and one of them knows how to spell and use English grammar.

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  156. It is kind of interesting how Joe writes in broken English in one post and perfect English in others. It is almost like he is more than one person … and one of them knows how to spell and use English grammar.

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  157. Project power against who? Who ever they need to to get the resources they need. What would “winning” in Afghanistan get the US? The US could exterminate every person in Afghanistan. Would that be winning? No. There is no winning in Afghanistan. The Russians learned it and now the US has learned it. Time for someone new to learn the lesson. China? Iran, perhaps?

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  158. Project power against who? Who ever they need to to get the resources they need.What would winning”” in Afghanistan get the US? The US could exterminate every person in Afghanistan. Would that be winning? No. There is no winning in Afghanistan. The Russians learned it and now the US has learned it. Time for someone new to learn the lesson. China? Iran”””” perhaps?”””

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  159. It is kind of interesting how Joe writes in broken English in one post and perfect English in others. It is almost like he is more than one person … and one of them knows how to spell and use English grammar.

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  160. Project power against who? Who ever they need to to get the resources they need.

    What would “winning” in Afghanistan get the US? The US could exterminate every person in Afghanistan. Would that be winning? No. There is no winning in Afghanistan. The Russians learned it and now the US has learned it. Time for someone new to learn the lesson. China? Iran, perhaps?

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  161. It is hard to argue history when you don’t know it. The Vietnam war did not end with the TET offensive but it was a turning point.

    Your insults don’t hurt us either. In fact, they kind of tickle.

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  162. Well, you are 1/3 correct. I am an educated redneck. I run 6 warehouse inventory systems and, if I do say so myself, I am also a decent programmer. Please, that colonial crap wont fly. The US doesn’t need colonies. Do you know how much land and resources North America has? I doubt you can grasp the sheer size of the continent.

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  163. Wow you got me there! It sad that America gets a smaller piece of a bigger pie.

    Yeah, in a few years the US will still be the one and only Superpower. Many others will have nuclear ballistic missiles but not the ability to project power. Those that do have the ability to project power are US allies.

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  164. I would agree with that and I believe that has been the stance of much of the U.S. electorate, many world governments, and the official stance of the Chinese government for quite awhile now. Zero-sum political games have a habit of causing far too much trouble than they’re worth.

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  165. Working hard for your 50cents, Joe?

    Was your sister kidnapped form the farm and now you have to pay ransom to get her back or she’ll be forced-married to some Cantonese pig in the city?

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  166. In Iran mullahs decide which candidates win, in the United states it is the megadonors
    Not so much difference
    Liberalization of Islam in SA?
    What are you smoking?
    Must be good!
    They have even a religious police in SA
    They kill people for sorcery in SA
    You really have no clue what you are talking about and I am tired to having to teach a kid who has no will to learn
    Good bye kid

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  167. The TET offensive that crushed South Vietnam AND the US started well before the US withdrawal from Vietnam
    Whether the Communist Govrnment is stupid or not, this is nothing that interests you as you are not I assume a Viet citizen. So shut the crap out please

    and that Iran’s mullahs are about to be overthrown.
    -> The US has been trying this since 1979 and never achieved and today Iran is way stronger than before and has way more influence in Iraq and Syria than before.
    None of your insults touches me
    You are out
    Go to discuss with your other troll WTA in case you are not the same person

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  168. Iran has elections, but the mullahs decide which candidates will win. It’s called an illegitimate government. KSA is an absolute monarchy, but like all of them is aware it’s limitations are set by the bulk of the their powerbase within the nobility and those who are rich enough, however nouveau. What the KSA monarchy is undertaking is the radical (for Islam) liberalization of the society, putting them far ahead of Iran.

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  169. Yes, we pretty much did. In 1973. The South fielded almost 1mn in their armed forces, the US has just 7% of that in the country to start and finished the year with only 50. During this time the South crushed an NVA invasion. It is Vietnam still licking their self inflicted wounds, chief among the the stupidity of adopting communism, which as always can only be a criminal form of government.

    ” Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no ” <-- That's not syntactically coherent in any language. Are you drunk? " Iran and Russia are expanding their influence in the Middle East You really need to learn more " <-- I know Russians die by American artillery quite efficiently in Syria and elsewhere, and that Iran's mullahs are about to be overthrown.

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  170. There are more than 200 nations in the world, all of them said North America is not yours, the colored aliens from the old continent of Europe, Asia, and Africa.

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  171. You are the one feeling being offended and denying your misdemeanor like a spoiled kid, an American national trait. Anyhow you are jihad1st, pr1mitive barbar1ans who can only annoy.

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  172. If you want to have a custom part designed and built to high quality, what does it cost?
    Go on, work it out. A custom part or tool. Only 5 will be made.

    An engineer designs it. It gets reviewed by a bunch of other engineers. It’s a critical part so it has to work and not have some weakness that could cause a $100 million dollar aircraft to fail in mid air. And because it isn’t mass produced it has to be machined from single chunks of high quality steel, not moulded or forged like a mass production tool.

    Now combine all those costs and divide by 5 because that’s the total number made.

    If this is too difficult, look at other areas where similar parts are made. Ask a formula one team what the price was for that one tool they had to get made to let them assemble their hand build engines. Ask a PhD student what the system they built for their thesis costs, the full price including 5 years of scholarship, living expenses and forgone income.

    Now compare this to the cost of a mass produced part which is exactly like the previous 20 generations of parts so very little design was required, and they’ll make 100 000 of them so all the setup costs can be divided by 100 000. And no normal person will die if a screwdriver fails so less quality control or standards.

    Or maybe don’t. Because this is one of those red-flag issues where you can tell who knows what they are talking about, and who gets their knowledge of the world from watching the Daily Show.

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  173. No they have not
    Iran has an elected government SA hass not
    I am tired of teaching you things while all you can do is parrot lies you have heard from Fox news
    My time wit you is over
    Whether you are the sock of wta or not I do not care Bye

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  174. Wrong again
    In Iran women can drive, teach and open companies
    They do not need a male guardian
    In SA (backed by the US) women can not drive teach or open companies
    They need a male guardian
    I am really TIRED to beef up your parrotism

    China has never invaded africa, africa is not a country by the way

    Who si talking about Kerry?
    I am talking about the endless war crimes commit by the US in Vietnam
    Google “Winter solider investigation”
    Google Operration meny
    That was a massive war crime commit by the US

    The Government of the US accepts only Beijing as legitimate govenrment of China, not Taipei

    At last, I am really tired of feeding up you like a baby
    Please study and stop spreading lies otherwise I will ignore you like I am doing with our friend WTA.
    Or maybe, you ARE WTA?
    The lies you are spreeing look similar, so I am starting to suspect.. that you are WTA

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  175. America did not LEAVE Vietnam in 1973
    America got their buttocks kicked out of Vietnam in 1973
    And America is still licking their wounds in 2018
    Iran is full of basis in Syria and leaving Syria is one of the conditions Trump and Pompeus are asking Iran to remove the sanctions with Iran saying no
    Russia has a naval base in Syria
    Iran and Russia are expanding their influence in the Middle East
    You really need to learn more

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  176. The US wanted to block island building in SCS
    They failed
    They US wanted Crimea back to Ukraine
    They failed
    The US wanted Iran stop their nuclear program
    They failed
    The US wanted assad out
    They failed
    I am quite tired to feed up against your willful ingorance
    Smart up soon or I will ignore as I am ignoring your friend WTA

    Luca Ma ZZa

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  177. No, America left Vietnam in ’73. South Vietnam was able to destroy the communist invasion of that year with all but no US support, It was not until the treasonous Democrat Party cut off all support to the South that the North then afterwards invaded successfully.

    Poor little Matheus, you’re so ignorant and stupid.

    Iran is not winning in Iraq, in fact Free Kurdish and Iraqi forces killed of Iran’s catspaws there not long ago. Similarly, a unit of Russians was destroyed by American artillery in Syria. Seems we are very successfully there, and Iran and Russia not so much.

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  178. No dufus, Iran and Saudi have identical governments int heir effective laws, which are sharia for both.

    Japan is happy to have backup against thieving China.

    No, there is no list of any war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam, and what few war crimes US servicemen committed against policy, they were punished for if convicted.

    So what? That doesn’t end the treaty which gives us Guantanamo Bay.

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  179. ” It seems you are denying the International Human Rights Watch ” <-- Of course, they are full of shit. All Leftists are, they can't do better. " It is time for the American to show remorse to the Vietnamese about the harm they did to the Vietnamese, denying is so morally defunct. " <-- Considering the VC existed at the behest of foreign powers aiming to subjugate and destroy the Vietnamese people, and having wreaked their havoc to no better end than that they adopt the worst policies of cronyism as has China (how are those schools holding up in mild earthquakes? not falling down?), the Vietnamese government should resign en masse and apologize for their 43 year fraud, inviting the refugees to return and govern... ...And it is the Democrat Party which should apologize for abandoning the RVN to the North, which lead both to the '75 invasion and the Khmer Rouge taking Cambodia. You can never do right going Left.

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  180. Moron, it is not par of Cuba as long as we hold the treaty granting it to us in effect, and we do and will.

    ” The legitimate owner of the USA is the First Nations of the North America ” <-- Then the legitimate owners of China are the Ainu of Japan, the last descendants of the most original inhabitants. Stupey, you can't shame me with the best thing to happen to humanity since the evolution of speech.

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  181. No, there are no more human rights in Iran than in Saudi, both are strictly governed by sharia. Elections don’t change sharia.

    Actually China has invaded many countries with or without the agreement of the locals. Vietnam, Africa.

    Why should I care what lies Kerry told? Much of what the Left calls a war crime is not, and what was a war crime in Vietnam done by Amerindians was punished by Americans–the crime was not policy. And really, no communist should ever endorse the notion of collective guilt, because then Ill hold you responsible for the 500 million some that philosophy has killed since it’s inception.

    It is up to the US to decide what the US accepts as a legitimate government. For example, regardless of what Foggy Bottom pretends, there is only on legitimate government of China, and it is seated in Taiwan. And ultimately, the State marches to the President’s and Congresses’ tune. It is a revocable fiction we continue to mouth the lie that Beijing has legitimacy.

    I don’t care what you pretend is genocide, when I know it was not. Now what the VC tried to do to the Hmong, that was genocide. What the Khmer Rouge did, that was an attempted genocide.

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  182. For a few days.
    In the mean time the US invaded Vietnam and got kicked out, invaded afghanistan and they are losing, invaded Iraq and now Iran is winning there, invaded or bombed Lybia and caused disaster, etc.

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  183. A generation needs to be born and send to its grave?
    You look more and more like a dangerous psycho, you know?
    Like your friend WTA!
    By the way, not dangerous at all, fortunately, as the US dominance has been castrated by the resurgence of CHINA

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  184. US share of world GDP

    1999     21.1
    2000     20.9
    2001     20.6
    2002     20.4
    2003     20.1
    2004     19.9
    2005     19.6
    2006 19.1
    2007     18.4
    2008     17.8
    2009     17.4
    2010     16.9
    2011     16.5
    2012     16.4
    (to be continued)

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  185. All habits of thought not classically liberal are poison to humanity, there is no “Asian” thought in China, only the remaining stupidities of a pre-modern society once common to all humanity, superficially ruled by outward forms predicated on the Endarkenment philosophy of Rousseau. What Britain began to reject, which culminated 1775 to 1788 in her once colonies, is the universal best known approach to human governance, and it will whelm China.

    i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/22/1400763772469/The-Goddess-of-Democracy–008.jpg?w=1200&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=2630c76a406d48f937d914abbcd68fd2

    Tiananmen.

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  186. Yes. A generation needs to be born and go to it’s grave by what force is needful not knowing the habits of thought that lead to a “Taliban”. What else do you pretend suffices? Where, idiot, did I claim that 25 years was the announced policy?

    So what? WWII was fought against a western society willing to accept the result of the battlefield as what would rule them from then on, Afghanistan is populated by people who think it doesn’t matter. Very persistent force to the contrary must be applied.

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  187. True. As of 2018
    As the US is still the biggest economy in real terms
    In 3-4 years all projections (most) give China passing the US
    At that time, the yuan will be the reserve and the US dollar will be dumped
    And this will be the lat nail in the US reserve curency empire coffin

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  188. You are excusing massive war crimes using the line of “we are here to prvent other crimes”
    More or less the excuse that Hitler used to start WWII or Italy used with Ethipia..

    You are wrong in all cases
    1) Human rights in SA are much worse than Iran so what you are saying is bullsnort
    Iran has an elected govt SA does not
    2) China has not invaded countries in the last 50 years, or maybe one for a few days , the US invaded a lot, so you are wrong here as well
    3) Few crimes US in Vietnam? What do you smoke? Must be good! Google “Winter Soldier Vietnam” and learn dude
    4) It is not up to the US but to the UN to decide what is a “legitimate government ” and Cuba is a member of the UN, You are just supporting aggression against Cuba

    In other words, you are just cowardly supporting and whitewashing massinve war crimes and genocides abgainst population (Operation Menu) as you do not care about the lives of people who are not your fellow citizens.
    At least, the Nazis had more spine.

    As for WTA, it is me who did this : https://bit.ly/2MeWYZT

    Luca Mazza

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  189. You can’t impose a reserve currency. Either countries want to use a currency or they don’t. At the moment everyone in the world wants American dollars. Just ask any Iranian, Venezuelan or Turkish citizen which currency they would rather hold.

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  190. China has NO friends and many enemies (their neighbors). Any country that wants China’s oil BEFORE it gets to China will TAKE it if America isn’t patrolling the sea lanes. Remember, China’s success depends on clear shipping routes. If they can’t guarantee shipping they are screwed.

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  191. China fought the way it always fights … by sending overwhelming numbers of troops. That kind of tactic won’t work anymore, not against a technically superior foe. The wars may have been “lost” but they still accomplished America’s strategic goals (ok, some of them were just stupid … Balkans in the late 90s).

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  192. USA is 10,000 miles away on the other side of the Pacific. USA is not an Asian nation, and American is an alien to Asia, American became rich and powerful through imperialism, colonialism, selling opium, religious indoctrination of the conquered, ethnic cleansing, genocide, slavery, racial discrimination, regime change, weapons trade, shock and awe, skillful propaganda, etc.

    American is a toxin and a plague to Asian, They have done enough damage to Asian already, they are not wanted, not invited and not loved in Asia, go home Yankee.

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