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But, TSMC is the leader, so the Chinese are in fact the leaders.
But TSMC is the leader so the Chinese are in fact the leaders.
No worries, just like with the Soviet Union, they will steal the technology, try to reverse engineer it and make a poor copy of it, sell it for a reduced price. They’ve been doing that for years. Not just computer chips, but a LOT of military hardware looks like knock offs of the west.
Taiwan, yes. But not mainland China. The Taiwanese semiconductor foundries jealously guard their technology from the mainland (even though TSMC has several 300mm fabs in mainland China).
Yes, China has a ways to go before they catch up with the leading edge semiconductor technology. No doubt they will certainly do so. But it will take a good 5-10 years for them to get there. The Chinese have a ways to go before they are able to make state of the art jet engines as well.
No worries just like with the Soviet Union they will steal the technology try to reverse engineer it and make a poor copy of it sell it for a reduced price. They’ve been doing that for years. Not just computer chips but a LOT of military hardware looks like knock offs of the west.
Taiwan yes. But not mainland China. The Taiwanese semiconductor foundries jealously guard their technology from the mainland (even though TSMC has several 300mm fabs in mainland China).
Yes China has a ways to go before they catch up with the leading edge semiconductor technology. No doubt they will certainly do so. But it will take a good 5-10 years for them to get there. The Chinese have a ways to go before they are able to make state of the art jet engines as well.
Huawei’s Kirin 980 is a 7 nm chip. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-980-news/
Taiwan will sooner or later fall to China so.. Moot point
Huawei’s 7nm chip will beat Apples and Roger Luo, president of TSMC Nanjing said that 12 out of the world’s top-50 IC design houses come from China, and 21% of global IC design revenue share. https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180920PD204.html
Huawei’s Kirin 980 is a 7 nm chip. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-980-news/
Taiwan will sooner or later fall to China so.. Moot point
Huawei’s 7nm chip will beat Apples and Roger Luo president of TSMC Nanjing said that 12 out of the world’s top-50 IC design houses come from China and 21{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of global IC design revenue share. https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180920PD204.html
Just give them a few nukes and they won’t have to worry abut their neighbor invading.
They don’t have ways to go, they catched up already Google just these 3 recent developments “Huawei debuts Kirin 980, the World’s first 7nm mobile chip” “China has fixed improved WS-15 engine so J-20 stealth fighter will start mass production” “China in talks for sale of jet engine technology to Germany” – If they’re selling to Germany, obviously they’ve got something at least as good as EU tech, and it was in January. Second story, WS-15 breakthrough is very recent, from this month.
China is in a unique position being able to see the whole instruction set ecosystem already develop, and being able to learn fro other’s mistakes. All the knowledge from developing mainframes, assorted RISC-esque ISA’s is functionally available to them. They already have access to ARM and MIPS and RISC-V, there are allegations that certain chips have DEC-Alpha characteristics not long after a huge IP theft from DEC’s japan office, and tons of microcontrollers. They have the technology, they can build it. But first they need to build the fabs, and that’s obnoxious. We’ve seen all the major global fabs struggling with EUV lithography and 15nm or less fab processes. Once the chinese have 10nm fabs domestically with large outputs, then their entire electronics industry can switch over to domestic designs wholesale. That recent AMD deal means effectively AMD type x86 is in their hands now as well. In some ways the semiconductor designs in russia not proliferating is a sad note, but the western hegemony of chip design may end, allowing new designs to bloom.
Just give them a few nukes and they won’t have to worry abut their neighbor invading.
They don’t have ways to go they catched up already Google just these 3 recent developments Huawei debuts Kirin 980″” the World’s first 7nm mobile chip””””””China has fixed improved WS-15 engine so J-20 stealth fighter will start mass production””””””””China in talks for sale of jet engine technology to Germany”””” – If they’re selling to Germany”” obviously they’ve got something at least as good as EU tech and it was in January. Second story WS-15 breakthrough is very recent”” from this month.”””
China is in a unique position being able to see the whole instruction set ecosystem already develop and being able to learn fro other’s mistakes. All the knowledge from developing mainframes assorted RISC-esque ISA’s is functionally available to them. They already have access to ARM and MIPS and RISC-V there are allegations that certain chips have DEC-Alpha characteristics not long after a huge IP theft from DEC’s japan office and tons of microcontrollers. They have the technology they can build it. But first they need to build the fabs and that’s obnoxious. We’ve seen all the major global fabs struggling with EUV lithography and 15nm or less fab processes. Once the chinese have 10nm fabs domestically with large outputs then their entire electronics industry can switch over to domestic designs wholesale. That recent AMD deal means effectively AMD type x86 is in their hands now as well.In some ways the semiconductor designs in russia not proliferating is a sad note but the western hegemony of chip design may end allowing new designs to bloom.
Intel wanted to roll out 10nm chips 5 years ago, their time table keeps slipping further and further into the future and investors are punishing them for it. Should have bought AMD shares.
Easily fixed by simply invading and taking Taiwan, then. Oh wait! Next Big China can’t do it or as they would have already.
Just a question of time before they are reunified, much like North/South Korea.
Intel wanted to roll out 10nm chips 5 years ago their time table keeps slipping further and further into the future and investors are punishing them for it. Should have bought AMD shares.
Easily fixed by simply invading and taking Taiwan then.Oh wait! Next Big China can’t do it or as they would have already.
Just a question of time before they are reunified much like North/South Korea.
Extremely poorly written article 10 NM and under requires EUV technology, that is patented by ASML EUV technology uses ultraviolet light to etch substrates and is necessary for 10nm and under chips TSM leads not because they were the first to purchase EUV from ASML, followed by Samsung and Intel These are the only 3 companies that currently have EUV photolithography machines The orders from ASML are backed up, But China’s SMIC has already ordered EUV and are set to receive it in 2019
They have 16 nm chip since the last week. What you are going to do?
Extremely poorly written article10 NM and under requires EUV technology that is patented by ASMLEUV technology uses ultraviolet light to etch substrates and is necessary for 10nm and under chipsTSM leads not because they were the first to purchase EUV from ASML followed by Samsung and Intel These are the only 3 companies that currently have EUV photolithography machinesThe orders from ASML are backed up But China’s SMIC has already ordered EUV and are set to receive it in 2019
They have 16 nm chip since the last week. What you are going to do?
Doesn’t the light instead develop the photoresist, which resists etching?
Doesn’t the light instead develop the photoresist which resists etching?
That N/S Korea unification looks more tricky than PRC & ROC.
That N/S Korea unification looks more tricky than PRC & ROC.
The microchip is a pattern, of thousands upon thousands of transistors this pattern needs to be placed on the microchip, this process is called etching Definition: Etch cut or carve (a text or design) on a surface. I worded it poorly the EUV etches the photoresist The actual process is they put a layer of photo resist, photoresist either breaks down or strengthens when the UV light strikes it in a particular location. Then typically a acid is used so that the areas that don’t get hit by the UV light are protected by the photoresist, while areas that are not protected end up getting indentations. Copper is then run along these indentations to create the circuit.
I wouldn’t mind a chinese semiconductor explosion. The rotten current dominant cartel players deserve it. They maintain an artificial scarcity so that they can sell memory at 4 or more times the price. Probably making good processors is a tough challenge, but I can imagine cheap Chinese flash memory (and maybe RAM) happening.
I just read about chinese ( Zhaoxin ) x86/AMD64 SOCs that are competitive with some Ryzen 5 and i5 ones.
The microchip is a pattern of thousands upon thousands of transistorsthis pattern needs to be placed on the microchip this process is called etchingDefinition: Etchcut or carve (a text or design) on a surface.I worded it poorly the EUV etches the photoresist The actual process is they put a layer of photo resist photoresist either breaks down or strengthens when the UV light strikes it in a particular location. Then typically a acid is used so that the areas that don’t get hit by the UV light are protected by the photoresist while areas that are not protected end up getting indentations. Copper is then run along these indentations to create the circuit.
I wouldn’t mind a chinese semiconductor explosion. The rotten current dominant cartel players deserve it. They maintain an artificial scarcity so that they can sell memory at 4 or more times the price.Probably making good processors is a tough challenge but I can imagine cheap Chinese flash memory (and maybe RAM) happening.
I just read about chinese ( Zhaoxin ) x86/AMD64 SOCs that are competitive with some Ryzen 5 and i5 ones.
The microchip is a pattern, of thousands upon thousands of transistors this pattern needs to be placed on the microchip, this process is called etching Definition: Etch cut or carve (a text or design) on a surface. I worded it poorly the EUV etches the photoresist The actual process is they put a layer of photo resist, photoresist either breaks down or strengthens when the UV light strikes it in a particular location. Then typically a acid is used so that the areas that don’t get hit by the UV light are protected by the photoresist, while areas that are not protected end up getting indentations. Copper is then run along these indentations to create the circuit.
The microchip is a pattern of thousands upon thousands of transistorsthis pattern needs to be placed on the microchip this process is called etchingDefinition: Etchcut or carve (a text or design) on a surface.I worded it poorly the EUV etches the photoresist The actual process is they put a layer of photo resist photoresist either breaks down or strengthens when the UV light strikes it in a particular location. Then typically a acid is used so that the areas that don’t get hit by the UV light are protected by the photoresist while areas that are not protected end up getting indentations. Copper is then run along these indentations to create the circuit.
I wouldn’t mind a chinese semiconductor explosion. The rotten current dominant cartel players deserve it. They maintain an artificial scarcity so that they can sell memory at 4 or more times the price. Probably making good processors is a tough challenge, but I can imagine cheap Chinese flash memory (and maybe RAM) happening.
I wouldn’t mind a chinese semiconductor explosion. The rotten current dominant cartel players deserve it. They maintain an artificial scarcity so that they can sell memory at 4 or more times the price.Probably making good processors is a tough challenge but I can imagine cheap Chinese flash memory (and maybe RAM) happening.
I just read about chinese ( Zhaoxin ) x86/AMD64 SOCs that are competitive with some Ryzen 5 and i5 ones.
I just read about chinese ( Zhaoxin ) x86/AMD64 SOCs that are competitive with some Ryzen 5 and i5 ones.
That N/S Korea unification looks more tricky than PRC & ROC.
That N/S Korea unification looks more tricky than PRC & ROC.
Doesn’t the light instead develop the photoresist, which resists etching?
Doesn’t the light instead develop the photoresist which resists etching?
Extremely poorly written article 10 NM and under requires EUV technology, that is patented by ASML EUV technology uses ultraviolet light to etch substrates and is necessary for 10nm and under chips TSM leads not because they were the first to purchase EUV from ASML, followed by Samsung and Intel These are the only 3 companies that currently have EUV photolithography machines The orders from ASML are backed up, But China’s SMIC has already ordered EUV and are set to receive it in 2019
Extremely poorly written article10 NM and under requires EUV technology that is patented by ASMLEUV technology uses ultraviolet light to etch substrates and is necessary for 10nm and under chipsTSM leads not because they were the first to purchase EUV from ASML followed by Samsung and Intel These are the only 3 companies that currently have EUV photolithography machinesThe orders from ASML are backed up But China’s SMIC has already ordered EUV and are set to receive it in 2019
They have 16 nm chip since the last week. What you are going to do?
They have 16 nm chip since the last week. What you are going to do?
The microchip is a pattern, of thousands upon thousands of transistors
this pattern needs to be placed on the microchip, this process is called etching
Definition: Etch
cut or carve (a text or design) on a surface.
I worded it poorly the EUV etches the photoresist
The actual process is they put a layer of photo resist, photoresist either breaks down or strengthens when the UV light strikes it in a particular location. Then typically a acid is used so that the areas that don’t get hit by the UV light are protected by the photoresist, while areas that are not protected end up getting indentations. Copper is then run along these indentations to create the circuit.
I wouldn’t mind a chinese semiconductor explosion. The rotten current dominant cartel players deserve it. They maintain an artificial scarcity so that they can sell memory at 4 or more times the price.
Probably making good processors is a tough challenge, but I can imagine cheap Chinese flash memory (and maybe RAM) happening.
I just read about chinese ( Zhaoxin ) x86/AMD64 SOCs that are competitive with some Ryzen 5 and i5 ones.
Intel wanted to roll out 10nm chips 5 years ago, their time table keeps slipping further and further into the future and investors are punishing them for it. Should have bought AMD shares.
Intel wanted to roll out 10nm chips 5 years ago their time table keeps slipping further and further into the future and investors are punishing them for it. Should have bought AMD shares.
That N/S Korea unification looks more tricky than PRC & ROC.
Doesn’t the light instead develop the photoresist, which resists etching?
Easily fixed by simply invading and taking Taiwan, then. Oh wait! Next Big China can’t do it or as they would have already.
Easily fixed by simply invading and taking Taiwan then.Oh wait! Next Big China can’t do it or as they would have already.
Just a question of time before they are reunified, much like North/South Korea.
Just a question of time before they are reunified much like North/South Korea.
Just give them a few nukes and they won’t have to worry abut their neighbor invading.
Just give them a few nukes and they won’t have to worry abut their neighbor invading.
Extremely poorly written article
10 NM and under requires EUV technology, that is patented by ASML
EUV technology uses ultraviolet light to etch substrates and is necessary for 10nm and under chips
TSM leads not because they were the first to purchase EUV from ASML, followed by Samsung and Intel
These are the only 3 companies that currently have EUV photolithography machines
The orders from ASML are backed up, But China’s SMIC has already ordered EUV and are set to receive it in 2019
They don’t have ways to go, they catched up already Google just these 3 recent developments “Huawei debuts Kirin 980, the World’s first 7nm mobile chip” “China has fixed improved WS-15 engine so J-20 stealth fighter will start mass production” “China in talks for sale of jet engine technology to Germany” – If they’re selling to Germany, obviously they’ve got something at least as good as EU tech, and it was in January. Second story, WS-15 breakthrough is very recent, from this month.
They don’t have ways to go they catched up already Google just these 3 recent developments Huawei debuts Kirin 980″” the World’s first 7nm mobile chip””””””China has fixed improved WS-15 engine so J-20 stealth fighter will start mass production””””””””China in talks for sale of jet engine technology to Germany”””” – If they’re selling to Germany”” obviously they’ve got something at least as good as EU tech and it was in January. Second story WS-15 breakthrough is very recent”” from this month.”””
China is in a unique position being able to see the whole instruction set ecosystem already develop, and being able to learn fro other’s mistakes. All the knowledge from developing mainframes, assorted RISC-esque ISA’s is functionally available to them. They already have access to ARM and MIPS and RISC-V, there are allegations that certain chips have DEC-Alpha characteristics not long after a huge IP theft from DEC’s japan office, and tons of microcontrollers. They have the technology, they can build it. But first they need to build the fabs, and that’s obnoxious. We’ve seen all the major global fabs struggling with EUV lithography and 15nm or less fab processes. Once the chinese have 10nm fabs domestically with large outputs, then their entire electronics industry can switch over to domestic designs wholesale. That recent AMD deal means effectively AMD type x86 is in their hands now as well. In some ways the semiconductor designs in russia not proliferating is a sad note, but the western hegemony of chip design may end, allowing new designs to bloom.
China is in a unique position being able to see the whole instruction set ecosystem already develop and being able to learn fro other’s mistakes. All the knowledge from developing mainframes assorted RISC-esque ISA’s is functionally available to them. They already have access to ARM and MIPS and RISC-V there are allegations that certain chips have DEC-Alpha characteristics not long after a huge IP theft from DEC’s japan office and tons of microcontrollers. They have the technology they can build it. But first they need to build the fabs and that’s obnoxious. We’ve seen all the major global fabs struggling with EUV lithography and 15nm or less fab processes. Once the chinese have 10nm fabs domestically with large outputs then their entire electronics industry can switch over to domestic designs wholesale. That recent AMD deal means effectively AMD type x86 is in their hands now as well.In some ways the semiconductor designs in russia not proliferating is a sad note but the western hegemony of chip design may end allowing new designs to bloom.
Huawei’s Kirin 980 is a 7 nm chip. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-980-news/
Huawei’s Kirin 980 is a 7 nm chip. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-980-news/
Taiwan will sooner or later fall to China so.. Moot point
Taiwan will sooner or later fall to China so.. Moot point
Huawei’s 7nm chip will beat Apples and Roger Luo, president of TSMC Nanjing said that 12 out of the world’s top-50 IC design houses come from China, and 21% of global IC design revenue share. https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180920PD204.html
Huawei’s 7nm chip will beat Apples and Roger Luo president of TSMC Nanjing said that 12 out of the world’s top-50 IC design houses come from China and 21{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of global IC design revenue share. https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180920PD204.html
They have 16 nm chip since the last week. What you are going to do?
No worries, just like with the Soviet Union, they will steal the technology, try to reverse engineer it and make a poor copy of it, sell it for a reduced price. They’ve been doing that for years. Not just computer chips, but a LOT of military hardware looks like knock offs of the west.
No worries just like with the Soviet Union they will steal the technology try to reverse engineer it and make a poor copy of it sell it for a reduced price. They’ve been doing that for years. Not just computer chips but a LOT of military hardware looks like knock offs of the west.
Taiwan, yes. But not mainland China. The Taiwanese semiconductor foundries jealously guard their technology from the mainland (even though TSMC has several 300mm fabs in mainland China).
Taiwan yes. But not mainland China. The Taiwanese semiconductor foundries jealously guard their technology from the mainland (even though TSMC has several 300mm fabs in mainland China).
Yes, China has a ways to go before they catch up with the leading edge semiconductor technology. No doubt they will certainly do so. But it will take a good 5-10 years for them to get there. The Chinese have a ways to go before they are able to make state of the art jet engines as well.
Yes China has a ways to go before they catch up with the leading edge semiconductor technology. No doubt they will certainly do so. But it will take a good 5-10 years for them to get there. The Chinese have a ways to go before they are able to make state of the art jet engines as well.
Intel wanted to roll out 10nm chips 5 years ago, their time table keeps slipping further and further into the future and investors are punishing them for it.
Should have bought AMD shares.
But, TSMC is the leader, so the Chinese are in fact the leaders.
But TSMC is the leader so the Chinese are in fact the leaders.
Easily fixed by simply invading and taking Taiwan, then.
Oh wait! Next Big China can’t do it or as they would have already.
Just a question of time before they are reunified, much like North/South Korea.
Just give them a few nukes and they won’t have to worry abut their neighbor invading.
They don’t have ways to go, they catched up already
Google just these 3 recent developments
“Huawei debuts Kirin 980, the World’s first 7nm mobile chip”
“China has fixed improved WS-15 engine so J-20 stealth fighter will start mass production”
“China in talks for sale of jet engine technology to Germany” – If they’re selling to Germany, obviously they’ve got something at least as good as EU tech, and it was in January. Second story, WS-15 breakthrough is very recent, from this month.
China is in a unique position being able to see the whole instruction set ecosystem already develop, and being able to learn fro other’s mistakes. All the knowledge from developing mainframes, assorted RISC-esque ISA’s is functionally available to them. They already have access to ARM and MIPS and RISC-V, there are allegations that certain chips have DEC-Alpha characteristics not long after a huge IP theft from DEC’s japan office, and tons of microcontrollers.
They have the technology, they can build it. But first they need to build the fabs, and that’s obnoxious. We’ve seen all the major global fabs struggling with EUV lithography and 15nm or less fab processes. Once the chinese have 10nm fabs domestically with large outputs, then their entire electronics industry can switch over to domestic designs wholesale. That recent AMD deal means effectively AMD type x86 is in their hands now as well.
In some ways the semiconductor designs in russia not proliferating is a sad note, but the western hegemony of chip design may end, allowing new designs to bloom.
Huawei’s Kirin 980 is a 7 nm chip. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-980-news/
Taiwan will sooner or later fall to China so..
Moot point
Huawei’s 7nm chip will beat Apples and Roger Luo, president of TSMC Nanjing said that 12 out of the world’s top-50 IC design houses come from China, and 21% of global IC design revenue share.
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180920PD204.html
No worries, just like with the Soviet Union, they will steal the technology, try to reverse engineer it and make a poor copy of it, sell it for a reduced price. They’ve been doing that for years. Not just computer chips, but a LOT of military hardware looks like knock offs of the west.
Taiwan, yes. But not mainland China. The Taiwanese semiconductor foundries jealously guard their technology from the mainland (even though TSMC has several 300mm fabs in mainland China).
Yes, China has a ways to go before they catch up with the leading edge semiconductor technology. No doubt they will certainly do so. But it will take a good 5-10 years for them to get there.
The Chinese have a ways to go before they are able to make state of the art jet engines as well.
But, TSMC is the leader, so the Chinese are in fact the leaders.