Fertility and IVF assistance tool has 8 million chinese users

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China has an algorithm-powered app called “Crazy for making babies” (aka Fengkuangzaoren). There are over 8 million users and 70,000 families successfully used it to help conceive over the past four years. The application provides an array of trackers such as basal body temperature, ovulation and menstruation to advise the best days to try to conceive. It has an algorithm-powered IVF assisting tool that predicts total cost and success rate and brokers clients with local and overseas clinics.

China has about 500 fertility clinics but they only have a 30% to 40% conception rate. Fertility clinics in the United States, Thailand and Malaysia have a 60% to 65% conception rate.

Qianzhan Industry Research Institute estimated that reproduction tourism from China was US$1.4 billion in 2017. This was about 70,000 couples in 2017. Reproduction tourism from China is growing at 20-30% per year.

One cycle of IVF treatment in Malaysia cost about US$5,000. A similar operation in mainland cities costs about 40,000 yuan, and in the US it is the equivalent of at least 150,000 yuan.

Globally about 2 million cycles of IVF are performed each year. IVF is growing at ~7% per year.

Denmark leads the world in IVF rates. 10% of all Denmark babies are via IVF.

12 thoughts on “Fertility and IVF assistance tool has 8 million chinese users”

  1. It would be interesting to know how much would cost to 1) Get 100 eggs from woman A (in China?) 2) Produce 100 embryos (with woman’s partner sperm) 3) Sequence them all (see 600$ offer for full DNA sequencing) 4) Determine the best embryos to implant first (high IQ, best trait of personality, best health, best appearance, etc.) 4) Implant the embryo in woman A (and/or surrogates) Let’s say it costs 60K to sequence 100 embryos (it can be made cheap because the embryos produced are tested as eggs are harvested (say 10 per cycle). In one year you have all hundred embryos and test them all. Let’s suppose the overhead of handling the eggs and the embryos is around 400$/embryo (we are industrializing and mass producing, so scaling decrease unitary costs). This become 100K$/100 embryo or 1K$/embryo. If we implant the “best” 10 (by any standard of the parents) embryos we can get at least 1 st deviation higher IQ, health, appearance people. Ten babies are a lot, sure. But their final cost is around 15K-20K$ (with 50%-66% success rate). Current costs for a child in school are around 10K$/year plus every overhead you can imagine (additional lessons if they are dumb or lazy, shuttling them around, feed them, cloth them, etc.). So, for the equivalent of 1 or 2 years in school you can get a 18 IQ point smarter (healthier, with better personality traits, prettier too) child. Do I needs to compute in the costs of higher education (Universities)? Do I need to point out these children are: 1) Easier to educate 2) Easier to teach, train 3) Easier to supervise 4) When adults they probably have a lot better jobs and a lot less problems of every type?

  2. It would be interesting to know how much would cost to 1) Get 100 eggs from woman A (in China?)2) Produce 100 embryos (with woman’s partner sperm)3) Sequence them all (see 600$ offer for full DNA sequencing)4) Determine the best embryos to implant first (high IQ best trait of personality best health best appearance etc.)4) Implant the embryo in woman A (and/or surrogates)Let’s say it costs 60K to sequence 100 embryos (it can be made cheap because the embryos produced are tested as eggs are harvested (say 10 per cycle). In one year you have all hundred embryos and test them all.Let’s suppose the overhead of handling the eggs and the embryos is around 400$/embryo (we are industrializing and mass producing so scaling decrease unitary costs).This become 100K$/100 embryo or 1K$/embryo.If we implant the best”” 10 (by any standard of the parents) embryos we can get at least 1 st deviation higher IQ”” health appearance people. Ten babies are a lot sure. But their final cost is around 15K-20K$ (with 50{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12}-66{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} success rate).Current costs for a child in school are around 10K$/year plus every overhead you can imagine (additional lessons if they are dumb or lazy shuttling them around feed them cloth them etc.).So for the equivalent of 1 or 2 years in school you can get a 18 IQ point smarter (healthier with better personality traits prettier too) child.Do I needs to compute in the costs of higher education (Universities)?Do I need to point out these children are:1) Easier to educate2) Easier to teach”” train3) Easier to supervise4) When adults they probably have a lot better jobs and a lot less problems of every type?”””

  3. It would be interesting to know how much would cost to
    1) Get 100 eggs from woman A (in China?)
    2) Produce 100 embryos (with woman’s partner sperm)
    3) Sequence them all (see 600$ offer for full DNA sequencing)
    4) Determine the best embryos to implant first (high IQ, best trait of personality, best health, best appearance, etc.)
    4) Implant the embryo in woman A (and/or surrogates)

    Let’s say it costs 60K to sequence 100 embryos (it can be made cheap because the embryos produced are tested as eggs are harvested (say 10 per cycle). In one year you have all hundred embryos and test them all.

    Let’s suppose the overhead of handling the eggs and the embryos is around 400$/embryo (we are industrializing and mass producing, so scaling decrease unitary costs).
    This become 100K$/100 embryo or 1K$/embryo.

    If we implant the “best” 10 (by any standard of the parents) embryos we can get at least 1 st deviation higher IQ, health, appearance people. Ten babies are a lot, sure. But their final cost is around 15K-20K$ (with 50%-66% success rate).

    Current costs for a child in school are around 10K$/year plus every overhead you can imagine (additional lessons if they are dumb or lazy, shuttling them around, feed them, cloth them, etc.).

    So, for the equivalent of 1 or 2 years in school you can get a 18 IQ point smarter (healthier, with better personality traits, prettier too) child.

    Do I needs to compute in the costs of higher education (Universities)?

    Do I need to point out these children are:
    1) Easier to educate
    2) Easier to teach, train
    3) Easier to supervise
    4) When adults they probably have a lot better jobs and a lot less problems of every type?

  6. How about this…? If you come from a country that has lost its masculinity and has become impotent like the scandinavian countries or japan, then adopt a child from one of many poor nations that still reproduce. Or just get another dog and feed it steak.

  7. How about this…? If you come from a country that has lost its masculinity and has become impotent like the scandinavian countries or japan then adopt a child from one of many poor nations that still reproduce. Or just get another dog and feed it steak.

  10. 10{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} of all Denmark babies are via IVF.””What an impotent society Danes have.”””

  11. How about this…? If you come from a country that has lost its masculinity and has become impotent like the scandinavian countries or japan, then adopt a child from one of many poor nations that still reproduce. Or just get another dog and feed it steak.

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