Tesla focus on execution and no real competition until 2020

Toni Sacconaghi of Bernstein says there is no credible competition for the Tesla Model 3 until 2020. In 2020, Volvo will release its all-electric Polestar 2 sedan.

The Model S luxury sedan and the Model X luxury SUV will only face two competitors – the Audi Etron Quattro and the Jaguar I-Pace – up until 2020.

Tesla has to focus on its own execution rather than competition.

166 thoughts on “Tesla focus on execution and no real competition until 2020”

  1. The Bolt has more range in practice than a 105D Model S. Now, you can get a lot more miles on that Model S but not if you drive it like a typical Model S driver. Note, the bit I said about impressing shallow people boils the trim/luxury issue to it’s essence… By the way, it’s not yet clear that Tesla can can make money selling the $35,000 model. A team that did a tear down of the current version thought they go broke selling lower end model, though the current version has a decent margin.

  2. Yep been reading those alt right sites again. How about the 3 times weekly attacks on Zero hedge. All paid for by the oligarchs in the oil and auto industries. Hey since the disinformation web sites have told you what to think about Global Warming and it seems everything else, have you managed to find just one credible scientific organization in the entire world that agrees with your GW denier BS.

  3. same level of trim/luxury at all.” So and iPad glued to the dashboard constitutes a valid definition of ‘trim/luxury’ these days? You gotta lay off the Musk Kool-Aid, dude!

  4. And a civil regulatory investigation by the SEC and a criminal prob by the DoJ and countless lawsuits. Don’t forget to add that on the list of things Tesla is focusing on as well. Oh wait! This is an OFFICIAL Musk Kool-Aid Drinkin’ Fluffer Site! My bad!

  5. The 60kW Bolt has more range than the 60kW S, but not the same level of trim/luxury at all. The Model 3 for $35k will have more far features standard than the Bolt for slightly less range, and slightly less cost. It’ll be competitive.

  6. Actually the Bolt is serious competition… it’s the car EV owners buy after their Tesla. EVs have two different ranges. The range the EPA gives them and they range they get in practice. In practice Bolt’s ranges exceeds that of both the model S and X (I haven’t heard the actual numbers the Model 3 yet so I’ll let that slide.) If you want to wreck your tires drag racing or want to impress some shallow people buy that Tesla. If you want to go places buy the Bolt.

  7. The Bolt has more range in practice than a 105D Model S. Now you can get a lot more miles on that Model S but not if you drive it like a typical Model S driver.Note the bit I said about impressing shallow people boils the trim/luxury issue to it’s essence…By the way it’s not yet clear that Tesla can can make money selling the $35000 model. A team that did a tear down of the current version thought they go broke selling lower end model though the current version has a decent margin.

  8. Yep been reading those alt right sites again. How about the 3 times weekly attacks on Zero hedge. All paid for by the oligarchs in the oil and auto industries. Hey since the disinformation web sites have told you what to think about Global Warming and it seems everything else have you managed to find just one credible scientific organization in the entire world that agrees with your GW denier BS.

  9. same level of trim/luxury at all.””So and iPad glued to the dashboard constitutes a valid definition of ‘trim/luxury’ these days? You gotta lay off the Musk Kool-Aid”””” dude!”””

  10. And a civil regulatory investigation by the SEC and a criminal prob by the DoJ and countless lawsuits. Don’t forget to add that on the list of things Tesla is focusing on as well.Oh wait! This is an OFFICIAL Musk Kool-Aid Drinkin’ Fluffer Site! My bad!

  11. The 60kW Bolt has more range than the 60kW S but not the same level of trim/luxury at all.The Model 3 for $35k will have more far features standard than the Bolt for slightly less range and slightly less cost. It’ll be competitive.

  12. Actually the Bolt is serious competition… it’s the car EV owners buy after their Tesla. EVs have two different ranges. The range the EPA gives them and they range they get in practice. In practice Bolt’s ranges exceeds that of both the model S and X (I haven’t heard the actual numbers the Model 3 yet so I’ll let that slide.) If you want to wreck your tires drag racing or want to impress some shallow people buy that Tesla. If you want to go places buy the Bolt.

  13. what does alt right or alt left have to do with anything? these are valid questions .. attacking people personally doesnt say much for your debating skills

  14. LA Times is an alt right site? Same for Business Trader and NBC News? Those all came up when I searched for “tesla criminal probe” just now. binged.it/2PToedM So much for disinformation. “agrees with your GW denier BS” Ah yes. You can not have ANYONE speak the truth. Because it threatens you and your BS position. So you call it names and make up lies about ‘alt right’ sites and the ‘oil and auto’ industries. You are the one who needs help, dude. You just proved it.

  15. what does alt right or alt left have to do with anything? these are valid questions .. attacking people personally doesnt say much for your debating skills

  16. LA Times is an alt right site? Same for Business Trader and NBC News?Those all came up when I searched for tesla criminal probe”” just now.binged.it/2PToedMSo much for disinformation.””””agrees with your GW denier BS””””Ah yes. You can not have ANYONE speak the truth. Because it threatens you and your BS position. So you call it names and make up lies about ‘alt right’ sites and the ‘oil and auto’ industries. You are the one who needs help”””” dude. You just proved it.”””

  17. Actually I suspect from talking to other Tesla owners it has a range in practice of slightly less than 180 mies.

  18. Actually I suspect from talking to other Tesla owners it has a range in practice of slightly less than 180 mies.

  19. Trolls aside, one interesting conversation could be done on the advantage Musk and Tesla may have from having an existing network of superchargers already there

  20. Trolls aside one interesting conversation could be done on the advantage Musk and Tesla may have from having an existing network of superchargers already there

  21. Your Musk Fluffing World is crashing down on you. Hence why you post these replies out of desperation. Cognitive Dissonance sure is painful, oy?

  22. You have no clue who is warren the trholl, right? AKA lib tards haate me and Shrillary, .. bit.ly/2MeWYZT Check here OK really

  23. Your Musk Fluffing World is crashing down on you. Hence why you post these replies out of desperation.Cognitive Dissonance sure is painful oy?

  24. You have no clue who is warren the trholl right?AKA lib tards haate me and Shrillary .. bit.ly/2MeWYZT Check here OK really

  25. Again, what’s with the ‘shoot the messenger’? OH YES. Musk Fluffers are irrational môrons. Now, I remember.

  26. Again what’s with the ‘shoot the messenger’? OH YES. Musk Fluffers are irrational môrons. Now I remember.”

  27. Dvmb*ss that video is about someone installing an Ipad as an aftermarket accessory in a Nissan. If you are going to be a lying troll, can you please tell better lies? … Kevin pork pastrami, shoulder meatloaf prosciutto swine corned beef ham. Alcatra frankfurter ham shank chuck andouille. Filet mignon shank jerky turducken, pork hamburger tail leberkas prosciutto. Hamburger chuck jowl sausage turkey cupim andouille. Pastrami turducken capicola andouille bresaola, rump bacon pork belly ribeye buffalo ham boudin pork loin. Porchetta turkey shank corned beef salami jerky frankfurter pork belly beef biltong filet mignon. Alcatra pig biltong strip steak ham hock doner pork loin tail chicken filet mignon jerky fatback burgdoggen. Hamburger meatloaf picanha, jowl capicola tri-tip ribeye pork loin kielbasa meatball tenderloin sirloin pancetta brisket. Tail cupim brisket sirloin, rump ground round t-bone chicken pig chuck. Filet mignon prosciutto bacon pastrami meatball. Cupim hamburger meatloaf ball tip pork belly. Shoulder drumstick buffalo brisket ham hock pork belly sausage jowl tongue. Short loin capicola bresaola turkey, fatback meatloaf sirloin pancetta leberkas ham hock cow.

  28. Dvmb*ss that video is about someone installing an Ipad as an aftermarket accessory in a Nissan.If you are going to be a lying troll can you please tell better lies?…Kevin pork pastrami shoulder meatloaf prosciutto swine corned beef ham. Alcatra frankfurter ham shank chuck andouille. Filet mignon shank jerky turducken pork hamburger tail leberkas prosciutto. Hamburger chuck jowl sausage turkey cupim andouille. Pastrami turducken capicola andouille bresaola rump bacon pork belly ribeye buffalo ham boudin pork loin. Porchetta turkey shank corned beef salami jerky frankfurter pork belly beef biltong filet mignon.Alcatra pig biltong strip steak ham hock doner pork loin tail chicken filet mignon jerky fatback burgdoggen. Hamburger meatloaf picanha jowl capicola tri-tip ribeye pork loin kielbasa meatball tenderloin sirloin pancetta brisket. Tail cupim brisket sirloin rump ground round t-bone chicken pig chuck. Filet mignon prosciutto bacon pastrami meatball. Cupim hamburger meatloaf ball tip pork belly. Shoulder drumstick buffalo brisket ham hock pork belly sausage jowl tongue. Short loin capicola bresaola turkey fatback meatloaf sirloin pancetta leberkas ham hock cow.

  29. So it looks like WarrenTheTroll erased his comment and my reply, where he claimed video of someone putting a an Ipad in a Nisan was really a video of an Ipad in a Tesla. He lies, and he tells stupid lies. Plainly I have to start screenshotting his lies so he cannot conceal them.

  30. So it looks like WarrenTheTroll erased his comment and my reply where he claimed video of someone putting a an Ipad in a Nisan was really a video of an Ipad in a Tesla.He lies and he tells stupid lies. Plainly I have to start screenshotting his lies so he cannot conceal them.

  31. What follows is the comment WarrenTheDouche erased: It is an iPad and it is glued onto the console: binged.it/2MXlDh6

  32. Then don’t say the problem is with the car, and no, you statements stand admitted to be false by your own hand.

  33. Actually I’m not. The real range problem with Teslas are Tesla drivers. Now maybe Tesla should have anticipated this and made their car able to deal better with lead footed drivers without compromising their cars range but they didn’t so my statements stand as true.

  34. Then don’t say the problem is with the car and no you statements stand admitted to be false by your own hand.

  35. Actually I’m not. The real range problem with Teslas are Tesla drivers. Now maybe Tesla should have anticipated this and made their car able to deal better with lead footed drivers without compromising their cars range but they didn’t so my statements stand as true.

  36. What follows is the comment WarrenTheDouche erased:It is an iPad and it is glued onto the console:binged.it/2MXlDh6

  37. if you live on a island or a small country than the bolt may be a better buy because it would be very difficult to drive beyond the batteries range. However most people live in places where it is possible to drive way beyond the batteries range. Which means in most cases drives that are longer than the bolts range means the owner leave the bolt at home and use a regular fossil fueled car. However thanks to the tesla supper charger network any tesla can be used on very long drives. So any tesla can be drive up to 800 miles in one day. The bolt cannot do that. Currently the GM factory is producing 1000 bolts a month. Tesla is currently producing 2,000 model S and X cars are week and model 3 production is currently about 5000 a week.

  38. if you live on a island or a small country than the bolt may be a better buy because it would be very difficult to drive beyond the batteries range. However most people live in places where it is possible to drive way beyond the batteries range. Which means in most cases drives that are longer than the bolts range means the owner leave the bolt at home and use a regular fossil fueled car. However thanks to the tesla supper charger network any tesla can be used on very long drives. So any tesla can be drive up to 800 miles in one day. The bolt cannot do that.Currently the GM factory is producing 1000 bolts a month. Tesla is currently producing 2000 model S and X cars are week and model 3 production is currently about 5000 a week.

  39. Musk should pray he doesn’t receive the same treatment as Martha Stewart. She spent 5 months in federal prison for avoiding a loss of $45K after selling stock allegedly based on non-public, material information she was provided by her broker.

  40. Musk should pray he doesn’t receive the same treatment as Martha Stewart. She spent 5 months in federal prison for avoiding a loss of $45K after selling stock allegedly based on non-public material information she was provided by her broker.

  41. tinyurl.com/yasz29f9 That is a link to a screenshot of my phone, where I got an email from Vuukle about WarrenTheTroll replying to one of my comments. He then later erased that comment seen and swears he never posted it. He’s just a lying troll.

  42. tinyurl.com/yasz29f9That is a link to a screenshot of my phone where I got an email from Vuukle about WarrenTheTroll replying to one of my comments. He then later erased that comment seen and swears he never posted it. He’s just a lying troll.

  43. tinyurl.com/yasz29f9

    That is a link to a screenshot of my phone, where I got an email from Vuukle about WarrenTheTroll replying to one of my comments. He then later erased that comment seen and swears he never posted it. He’s just a lying troll.

  44. Musk should pray he doesn’t receive the same treatment as Martha Stewart. She spent 5 months in federal prison for avoiding a loss of $45K after selling stock allegedly based on non-public, material information she was provided by her broker.

  45. Musk should pray he doesn’t receive the same treatment as Martha Stewart. She spent 5 months in federal prison for avoiding a loss of $45K after selling stock allegedly based on non-public material information she was provided by her broker.

  46. if you live on a island or a small country than the bolt may be a better buy because it would be very difficult to drive beyond the batteries range. However most people live in places where it is possible to drive way beyond the batteries range. Which means in most cases drives that are longer than the bolts range means the owner leave the bolt at home and use a regular fossil fueled car. However thanks to the tesla supper charger network any tesla can be used on very long drives. So any tesla can be drive up to 800 miles in one day. The bolt cannot do that. Currently the GM factory is producing 1000 bolts a month. Tesla is currently producing 2,000 model S and X cars are week and model 3 production is currently about 5000 a week.

  47. if you live on a island or a small country than the bolt may be a better buy because it would be very difficult to drive beyond the batteries range. However most people live in places where it is possible to drive way beyond the batteries range. Which means in most cases drives that are longer than the bolts range means the owner leave the bolt at home and use a regular fossil fueled car. However thanks to the tesla supper charger network any tesla can be used on very long drives. So any tesla can be drive up to 800 miles in one day. The bolt cannot do that.Currently the GM factory is producing 1000 bolts a month. Tesla is currently producing 2000 model S and X cars are week and model 3 production is currently about 5000 a week.

  48. Musk should pray he doesn’t receive the same treatment as Martha Stewart. She spent 5 months in federal prison for avoiding a loss of $45K after selling stock allegedly based on non-public, material information she was provided by her broker.

  49. if you live on a island or a small country than the bolt may be a better buy because it would be very difficult to drive beyond the batteries range.

    However most people live in places where it is possible to drive way beyond the batteries range. Which means in most cases drives that are longer than the bolts range means the owner leave the bolt at home and use a regular fossil fueled car. However thanks to the tesla supper charger network any tesla can be used on very long drives. So any tesla can be drive up to 800 miles in one day. The bolt cannot do that.

    Currently the GM factory is producing 1000 bolts a month. Tesla is currently producing 2,000 model S and X cars are week and model 3 production is currently about 5000 a week.

  50. What follows is the comment WarrenTheDouche erased: It is an iPad and it is glued onto the console: binged.it/2MXlDh6

  51. What follows is the comment WarrenTheDouche erased:It is an iPad and it is glued onto the console:binged.it/2MXlDh6

  52. Then don’t say the problem is with the car, and no, you statements stand admitted to be false by your own hand.

  53. Then don’t say the problem is with the car and no you statements stand admitted to be false by your own hand.

  54. Actually I’m not. The real range problem with Teslas are Tesla drivers. Now maybe Tesla should have anticipated this and made their car able to deal better with lead footed drivers without compromising their cars range but they didn’t so my statements stand as true.

  55. Actually I’m not. The real range problem with Teslas are Tesla drivers. Now maybe Tesla should have anticipated this and made their car able to deal better with lead footed drivers without compromising their cars range but they didn’t so my statements stand as true.

  56. So it looks like WarrenTheTroll erased his comment and my reply, where he claimed video of someone putting a an Ipad in a Nisan was really a video of an Ipad in a Tesla. He lies, and he tells stupid lies. Plainly I have to start screenshotting his lies so he cannot conceal them.

  57. So it looks like WarrenTheTroll erased his comment and my reply where he claimed video of someone putting a an Ipad in a Nisan was really a video of an Ipad in a Tesla.He lies and he tells stupid lies. Plainly I have to start screenshotting his lies so he cannot conceal them.

  58. Dvmb*ss that video is about someone installing an Ipad as an aftermarket accessory in a Nissan. If you are going to be a lying troll, can you please tell better lies? … Kevin pork pastrami, shoulder meatloaf prosciutto swine corned beef ham. Alcatra frankfurter ham shank chuck andouille. Filet mignon shank jerky turducken, pork hamburger tail leberkas prosciutto. Hamburger chuck jowl sausage turkey cupim andouille. Pastrami turducken capicola andouille bresaola, rump bacon pork belly ribeye buffalo ham boudin pork loin. Porchetta turkey shank corned beef salami jerky frankfurter pork belly beef biltong filet mignon. Alcatra pig biltong strip steak ham hock doner pork loin tail chicken filet mignon jerky fatback burgdoggen. Hamburger meatloaf picanha, jowl capicola tri-tip ribeye pork loin kielbasa meatball tenderloin sirloin pancetta brisket. Tail cupim brisket sirloin, rump ground round t-bone chicken pig chuck. Filet mignon prosciutto bacon pastrami meatball. Cupim hamburger meatloaf ball tip pork belly. Shoulder drumstick buffalo brisket ham hock pork belly sausage jowl tongue. Short loin capicola bresaola turkey, fatback meatloaf sirloin pancetta leberkas ham hock cow.

  59. Dvmb*ss that video is about someone installing an Ipad as an aftermarket accessory in a Nissan.If you are going to be a lying troll can you please tell better lies?…Kevin pork pastrami shoulder meatloaf prosciutto swine corned beef ham. Alcatra frankfurter ham shank chuck andouille. Filet mignon shank jerky turducken pork hamburger tail leberkas prosciutto. Hamburger chuck jowl sausage turkey cupim andouille. Pastrami turducken capicola andouille bresaola rump bacon pork belly ribeye buffalo ham boudin pork loin. Porchetta turkey shank corned beef salami jerky frankfurter pork belly beef biltong filet mignon.Alcatra pig biltong strip steak ham hock doner pork loin tail chicken filet mignon jerky fatback burgdoggen. Hamburger meatloaf picanha jowl capicola tri-tip ribeye pork loin kielbasa meatball tenderloin sirloin pancetta brisket. Tail cupim brisket sirloin rump ground round t-bone chicken pig chuck. Filet mignon prosciutto bacon pastrami meatball. Cupim hamburger meatloaf ball tip pork belly. Shoulder drumstick buffalo brisket ham hock pork belly sausage jowl tongue. Short loin capicola bresaola turkey fatback meatloaf sirloin pancetta leberkas ham hock cow.

  60. Again, what’s with the ‘shoot the messenger’? OH YES. Musk Fluffers are irrational môrons. Now, I remember.

  61. Again what’s with the ‘shoot the messenger’? OH YES. Musk Fluffers are irrational môrons. Now I remember.”

  62. Your Musk Fluffing World is crashing down on you. Hence why you post these replies out of desperation. Cognitive Dissonance sure is painful, oy?

  63. Your Musk Fluffing World is crashing down on you. Hence why you post these replies out of desperation.Cognitive Dissonance sure is painful oy?

  64. Actually I’m not. The real range problem with Teslas are Tesla drivers. Now maybe Tesla should have anticipated this and made their car able to deal better with lead footed drivers without compromising their cars range but they didn’t so my statements stand as true.

  65. You have no clue who is warren the trholl, right? AKA lib tards haate me and Shrillary, .. bit.ly/2MeWYZT Check here OK really

  66. You have no clue who is warren the trholl right?AKA lib tards haate me and Shrillary .. bit.ly/2MeWYZT Check here OK really

  67. Trolls aside, one interesting conversation could be done on the advantage Musk and Tesla may have from having an existing network of superchargers already there

  68. Trolls aside one interesting conversation could be done on the advantage Musk and Tesla may have from having an existing network of superchargers already there

  69. So it looks like WarrenTheTroll erased his comment and my reply, where he claimed video of someone putting a an Ipad in a Nisan was really a video of an Ipad in a Tesla.

    He lies, and he tells stupid lies. Plainly I have to start screenshotting his lies so he cannot conceal them.

  70. Dvmb*ss that video is about someone installing an Ipad as an aftermarket accessory in a Nissan.

    If you are going to be a lying troll, can you please tell better lies?

    Kevin pork pastrami, shoulder meatloaf prosciutto swine corned beef ham. Alcatra frankfurter ham shank chuck andouille. Filet mignon shank jerky turducken, pork hamburger tail leberkas prosciutto. Hamburger chuck jowl sausage turkey cupim andouille. Pastrami turducken capicola andouille bresaola, rump bacon pork belly ribeye buffalo ham boudin pork loin. Porchetta turkey shank corned beef salami jerky frankfurter pork belly beef biltong filet mignon.

    Alcatra pig biltong strip steak ham hock doner pork loin tail chicken filet mignon jerky fatback burgdoggen. Hamburger meatloaf picanha, jowl capicola tri-tip ribeye pork loin kielbasa meatball tenderloin sirloin pancetta brisket. Tail cupim brisket sirloin, rump ground round t-bone chicken pig chuck. Filet mignon prosciutto bacon pastrami meatball. Cupim hamburger meatloaf ball tip pork belly. Shoulder drumstick buffalo brisket ham hock pork belly sausage jowl tongue. Short loin capicola bresaola turkey, fatback meatloaf sirloin pancetta leberkas ham hock cow.

  71. Actually I suspect from talking to other Tesla owners it has a range in practice of slightly less than 180 mies.

  72. Actually I suspect from talking to other Tesla owners it has a range in practice of slightly less than 180 mies.

  73. what does alt right or alt left have to do with anything? these are valid questions .. attacking people personally doesnt say much for your debating skills

  74. what does alt right or alt left have to do with anything? these are valid questions .. attacking people personally doesnt say much for your debating skills

  75. LA Times is an alt right site? Same for Business Trader and NBC News? Those all came up when I searched for “tesla criminal probe” just now. binged.it/2PToedM So much for disinformation. “agrees with your GW denier BS” Ah yes. You can not have ANYONE speak the truth. Because it threatens you and your BS position. So you call it names and make up lies about ‘alt right’ sites and the ‘oil and auto’ industries. You are the one who needs help, dude. You just proved it.

  76. LA Times is an alt right site? Same for Business Trader and NBC News?Those all came up when I searched for tesla criminal probe”” just now.binged.it/2PToedMSo much for disinformation.””””agrees with your GW denier BS””””Ah yes. You can not have ANYONE speak the truth. Because it threatens you and your BS position. So you call it names and make up lies about ‘alt right’ sites and the ‘oil and auto’ industries. You are the one who needs help”””” dude. You just proved it.”””

  77. The Bolt has more range in practice than a 105D Model S. Now, you can get a lot more miles on that Model S but not if you drive it like a typical Model S driver. Note, the bit I said about impressing shallow people boils the trim/luxury issue to it’s essence… By the way, it’s not yet clear that Tesla can can make money selling the $35,000 model. A team that did a tear down of the current version thought they go broke selling lower end model, though the current version has a decent margin.

  78. The Bolt has more range in practice than a 105D Model S. Now you can get a lot more miles on that Model S but not if you drive it like a typical Model S driver.Note the bit I said about impressing shallow people boils the trim/luxury issue to it’s essence…By the way it’s not yet clear that Tesla can can make money selling the $35000 model. A team that did a tear down of the current version thought they go broke selling lower end model though the current version has a decent margin.

  79. Yep been reading those alt right sites again. How about the 3 times weekly attacks on Zero hedge. All paid for by the oligarchs in the oil and auto industries. Hey since the disinformation web sites have told you what to think about Global Warming and it seems everything else, have you managed to find just one credible scientific organization in the entire world that agrees with your GW denier BS.

  80. Yep been reading those alt right sites again. How about the 3 times weekly attacks on Zero hedge. All paid for by the oligarchs in the oil and auto industries. Hey since the disinformation web sites have told you what to think about Global Warming and it seems everything else have you managed to find just one credible scientific organization in the entire world that agrees with your GW denier BS.

  81. same level of trim/luxury at all.” So and iPad glued to the dashboard constitutes a valid definition of ‘trim/luxury’ these days? You gotta lay off the Musk Kool-Aid, dude!

  82. same level of trim/luxury at all.””So and iPad glued to the dashboard constitutes a valid definition of ‘trim/luxury’ these days? You gotta lay off the Musk Kool-Aid”””” dude!”””

  83. And a civil regulatory investigation by the SEC and a criminal prob by the DoJ and countless lawsuits. Don’t forget to add that on the list of things Tesla is focusing on as well. Oh wait! This is an OFFICIAL Musk Kool-Aid Drinkin’ Fluffer Site! My bad!

  84. And a civil regulatory investigation by the SEC and a criminal prob by the DoJ and countless lawsuits. Don’t forget to add that on the list of things Tesla is focusing on as well.Oh wait! This is an OFFICIAL Musk Kool-Aid Drinkin’ Fluffer Site! My bad!

  85. The 60kW Bolt has more range than the 60kW S, but not the same level of trim/luxury at all. The Model 3 for $35k will have more far features standard than the Bolt for slightly less range, and slightly less cost. It’ll be competitive.

  86. The 60kW Bolt has more range than the 60kW S but not the same level of trim/luxury at all.The Model 3 for $35k will have more far features standard than the Bolt for slightly less range and slightly less cost. It’ll be competitive.

  87. Actually the Bolt is serious competition… it’s the car EV owners buy after their Tesla. EVs have two different ranges. The range the EPA gives them and they range they get in practice. In practice Bolt’s ranges exceeds that of both the model S and X (I haven’t heard the actual numbers the Model 3 yet so I’ll let that slide.) If you want to wreck your tires drag racing or want to impress some shallow people buy that Tesla. If you want to go places buy the Bolt.

  88. Actually the Bolt is serious competition… it’s the car EV owners buy after their Tesla. EVs have two different ranges. The range the EPA gives them and they range they get in practice. In practice Bolt’s ranges exceeds that of both the model S and X (I haven’t heard the actual numbers the Model 3 yet so I’ll let that slide.) If you want to wreck your tires drag racing or want to impress some shallow people buy that Tesla. If you want to go places buy the Bolt.

  89. LA Times is an alt right site? Same for Business Trader and NBC News?

    Those all came up when I searched for “tesla criminal probe” just now.

    binged.it/2PToedM

    So much for disinformation.

    “agrees with your GW denier BS”

    Ah yes. You can not have ANYONE speak the truth. Because it threatens you and your BS position.

    So you call it names and make up lies about ‘alt right’ sites and the ‘oil and auto’ industries.

    You are the one who needs help, dude. You just proved it.

  90. The Bolt has more range in practice than a 105D Model S. Now, you can get a lot more miles on that Model S but not if you drive it like a typical Model S driver.

    Note, the bit I said about impressing shallow people boils the trim/luxury issue to it’s essence…

    By the way, it’s not yet clear that Tesla can can make money selling the $35,000 model. A team that did a tear down of the current version thought they go broke selling lower end model, though the current version has a decent margin.

  91. Yep been reading those alt right sites again. How about the 3 times weekly attacks on Zero hedge. All paid for by the oligarchs in the oil and auto industries.

    Hey since the disinformation web sites have told you what to think about Global Warming and it seems everything else, have you managed to find just one credible scientific organization in the entire world that agrees with your GW denier BS.

  92. “same level of trim/luxury at all.”

    So and iPad glued to the dashboard constitutes a valid definition of ‘trim/luxury’ these days?

    You gotta lay off the Musk Kool-Aid, dude!

  93. And a civil regulatory investigation by the SEC and a criminal prob by the DoJ and countless lawsuits.

    Don’t forget to add that on the list of things Tesla is focusing on as well.

    Oh wait! This is an OFFICIAL Musk Kool-Aid Drinkin’ Fluffer Site!

    My bad!

  94. The 60kW Bolt has more range than the 60kW S, but not the same level of trim/luxury at all.

    The Model 3 for $35k will have more far features standard than the Bolt for slightly less range, and slightly less cost. It’ll be competitive.

  95. Actually the Bolt is serious competition… it’s the car EV owners buy after their Tesla. EVs have two different ranges. The range the EPA gives them and they range they get in practice. In practice Bolt’s ranges exceeds that of both the model S and X (I haven’t heard the actual numbers the Model 3 yet so I’ll let that slide.) If you want to wreck your tires drag racing or want to impress some shallow people buy that Tesla. If you want to go places buy the Bolt.

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