Air Pollution Genocide not Climate Change Genocide

NY Mag writer David Wallace-Wells talks about a climate genocide. He implies that if we do not stop climate change at 1.5 degrees of warming then the climate change will cause 150 million more deaths than at 2 degrees of warming and we are heading to 4 degrees of warming.

Business as usual means there will be about 6-10 million air pollution deaths every year on average from 2018-2100. The unfocused and costly climate change solution would only save about 20% of those deaths.

The total of deaths is all from particulate air pollution. The deaths have already been happening and are happening today. Particulate (2.5 micron and 10 micron) air pollution comes from the incomplete burning of wood, plants and fossil fuels. The pollution is both indoor and outdoor.

David also downplays geoengineering and negative emissions technology. However, one the paper he cites indicates that sustained ocean iron fertilization CO2 sink of 1.0–3.7 GtCO2/year (0.3–1 GtC/year) and that the total ocean sequestration capacity until the end of the century is 85–315 GtCO2, assuming continuous iron fertilization of the entire iron-limited Southern Ocean, Equatorial Pacific and subpolar North Pacific. If the iron is fully used in increased plankton growth, cost estimates can be quite low (

Particulates currently produce 80% of the temperature increase compared to CO2.
Particulates leave the atmosphere in 2 weeks. So if particulate production were reduced by 50%, then in two weeks the impact would start to occur.
Particulates are black and absorb more heat. They darken ice and increase ice melting. White ice would reflect more sunlight.

Follow the other soot reduction steps in UN recommendations.

No slash and burn agriculture go to slash and char. Slash and burn is currently causing horrible pollution in Dehli, India.

35 thoughts on “Air Pollution Genocide not Climate Change Genocide”

  1. The author of this article is a crackpot. He has even suggested to pump SO2 (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere as part of his “geoengineering” suggestions. He is NOT a scientist and has been reviewed by real scientists (the global warming kind) who call out his bs. Wallace-Wells is the sensationalist type, doomsday sayer. His claims are absurd, and he freely admits it’s ok to scare people. Here is just one quote from a scientist who reviewed his latest book. “Similarly, it’s not obvious that there are any significantly missing feedbacks that should radically alter the linear perspective (certainly, any under-representation of surface albedo feedbacks in current models are unlikely to be the difference maker, since the polar regions make up a very small percentage of the globe and the surface contribution to the planetary albedo is somewhat masked by clouds).” That is a scientist’s way of say he is full of it. Even Michael Mann thinks this is bs – yeah the same fraudulent scientist of hockey stick fame. Brian – this has nothing to do with “next big future” unless you are starting to cite science fiction and Hollywood disaster movies stories as fact. I understand you are trying to make a point about air pollution and that it kills people and it’s better and cheaper to focus on that than trying to change the weather. I would encourage that you find better, peer-reviewed sources for this.

  2. The author of this article is a crackpot. He has even suggested to pump SO2 (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere as part of his geoengineering”” suggestions. He is NOT a scientist and has been reviewed by real scientists (the global warming kind) who call out his bs. Wallace-Wells is the sensationalist type”” doomsday sayer. His claims are absurd”” and he freely admits it’s ok to scare people. Here is just one quote from a scientist who reviewed his latest book.””””Similarly”” it’s not obvious that there are any significantly missing feedbacks that should radically alter the linear perspective (certainly any under-representation of surface albedo feedbacks in current models are unlikely to be the difference maker”” since the polar regions make up a very small percentage of the globe and the surface contribution to the planetary albedo is somewhat masked by clouds).”””” That is a scientist’s way of say he is full of it. Even Michael Mann thinks this is bs – yeah the same fraudulent scientist of hockey stick fame.Brian – this has nothing to do with “”””next big future”””” unless you are starting to cite science fiction and Hollywood disaster movies stories as fact. I understand you are trying to make a point about air pollution and that it kills people and it’s better and cheaper to focus on that than trying to change the weather. I would encourage that you find better”””” peer-reviewed sources for this.”””””””

  3. If there is even a 5% chance that this is real, we should develop the technology to deal with it, and test it. We are fools if we do not.

  4. If there is even a 5{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} chance that this is real we should develop the technology to deal with it and test it. We are fools if we do not.

  5. I congratulate you on persuading all the 7-year-olds with that pearl. Is your position so weak that you can’t present rational arguments? Human induced climate change is not engineering. Ah yes, “Everyone burn this coal stuff for 100 years. It will make it hot and kill all that nasty coral reef stuff and help clear islands of all those pesky inhabitants with double the hurricanes and sea level rise.” Presenting arguments you know are rubbish to manipulate people. Very sad. You make all rational environmentalist look like buffoons when you present trash like this. I am sorry, but just because scientists discovered climate effects earlier than other people does not equip them or endow them the moral high ground to dictate the solution or divine what the best solution is. That is the purview of engineers. Too many idiot Environmentalists are not happy unless we suffer for our sins by eating leaves and bark and put 7/8 of the human population to death and all of the farm animals and companion animals. Hey, producing unnecessary suffering is STUPID. If we can have our cake an eat it too, we should. Duh! It is a simple mater to test the engineered solutions to evaluate them. I don’t think anyone wants to just pick one and do it everywhere without learning and quantifying the results. The Scientists have as much as said that the momentum cannot be stopped with very low heat gain even if every combustion source was turned off permanently tomorrow. That means we need to do something less passive and more active. That means geoengineering…unless you want to start sacrificing virgins to Gaia or something. Personally, I think we should save the virgins and try sacrificing idiots who think 7/8 of humanity is a waste, first.

  6. I congratulate you on persuading all the 7-year-olds with that pearl. Is your position so weak that you can’t present rational arguments? Human induced climate change is not engineering. Ah yes Everyone burn this coal stuff for 100 years. It will make it hot and kill all that nasty coral reef stuff and help clear islands of all those pesky inhabitants with double the hurricanes and sea level rise.”” Presenting arguments you know are rubbish to manipulate people. Very sad. You make all rational environmentalist look like buffoons when you present trash like this.I am sorry”” but just because scientists discovered climate effects earlier than other people does not equip them or endow them the moral high ground to dictate the solution or divine what the best solution is. That is the purview of engineers.Too many idiot Environmentalists are not happy unless we suffer for our sins by eating leaves and bark and put 7/8 of the human population to death and all of the farm animals and companion animals.Hey producing unnecessary suffering is STUPID. If we can have our cake an eat it too we should. Duh!It is a simple mater to test the engineered solutions to evaluate them. I don’t think anyone wants to just pick one and do it everywhere without learning and quantifying the results.The Scientists have as much as said that the momentum cannot be stopped with very low heat gain even if every combustion source was turned off permanently tomorrow. That means we need to do something less passive and more active. That means geoengineering…unless you want to start sacrificing virgins to Gaia or something. Personally I think we should save the virgins and try sacrificing idiots who think 7/8 of humanity is a waste”” first.”””

  7. Yep its a scam cause so alt right site told ya. SOOO you are so sure then where are your sources. I have provided you links to lists of hundreds of recognized scientific organizations from round the world. Yet you are soo certain everyone else is stupid. Better look in the mirror. Don’t you Just deniers who are somehow convinced that the you have been given the inside scope about a scam? So when you ask them where they got their information then they get defensive cause admitting get got punked instead of the inside scope is too much for their closed minds.

  8. Yep its a scam cause so alt right site told ya. SOOO you are so sure then where are your sources. I have provided you links to lists of hundreds of recognized scientific organizations from round the world. Yet you are soo certain everyone else is stupid. Better look in the mirror. Don’t you Just deniers who are somehow convinced that the you have been given the inside scope about a scam? So when you ask them where they got their information then they get defensive cause admitting get got punked instead of the inside scope is too much for their closed minds.

  9. A 100+ years of geoengineering, which cannot be reversed quickly, turned out to have very bad long term consequences and the best solution is not to stop but to engage in different long term geoengineering. Sounds like the perfect solution to the credulous masses who reject basic physics as a tenet of their defective world view.

  10. A 100+ years of geoengineering which cannot be reversed quickly turned out to have very bad long term consequences and the best solution is not to stop but to engage in different long term geoengineering.Sounds like the perfect solution to the credulous masses who reject basic physics as a tenet of their defective world view.

  11. Geoengineering, is the deliberate and large-scale intervention in the Earth’s climate system. If 100+ years of intentionally altering the levels co2 of the planet by the entire human race does not qualify as geoengineering then nothing ever will. The purview of engineers irrelevant, the subject is, always has been and always will be the purview of societies the world over. The effects of co2 was well known for 100+ years, yet the the inept masses chooses to continue the geoengineering of the planet because the degenerate love of money(now) is always stronger than the fear of the costs(later) due to the consequences of ignoring reality. The planet wide effects of co2 had billions of years of precedence yet the irrational and the inept masses rejected them all. Now they embrace the promise of easy planet wide solutions without any precedence that are a “simple mater to test”.

  12. Geoengineering is the deliberate and large-scale intervention in the Earth’s climate system. If 100+ years of intentionally altering the levels co2 of the planet by the entire human race does not qualify as geoengineering then nothing ever will.The purview of engineers irrelevant the subject is always has been and always will be the purview of societies the world over. The effects of co2 was well known for 100+ years yet the the inept masses chooses to continue the geoengineering of the planet because the degenerate love of money(now) is always stronger than the fear of the costs(later) due to the consequences of ignoring reality. The planet wide effects of co2 had billions of years of precedence yet the irrational and the inept masses rejected them all. Now they embrace the promise of easy planet wide solutions without any precedence that are a simple mater to test””.”””””””

  13. Geoengineering, is the deliberate and large-scale intervention in the Earth’s climate system. If 100+ years of intentionally altering the levels co2 of the planet by the entire human race does not qualify as geoengineering then nothing ever will. The purview of engineers irrelevant, the subject is, always has been and always will be the purview of societies the world over. The effects of co2 was well known for 100+ years, yet the the inept masses chooses to continue the geoengineering of the planet because the degenerate love of money(now) is always stronger than the fear of the costs(later) due to the consequences of ignoring reality. The planet wide effects of co2 had billions of years of precedence yet the irrational and the inept masses rejected them all. Now they embrace the promise of easy planet wide solutions without any precedence that are a “simple mater to test”.

  14. Geoengineering is the deliberate and large-scale intervention in the Earth’s climate system. If 100+ years of intentionally altering the levels co2 of the planet by the entire human race does not qualify as geoengineering then nothing ever will.The purview of engineers irrelevant the subject is always has been and always will be the purview of societies the world over. The effects of co2 was well known for 100+ years yet the the inept masses chooses to continue the geoengineering of the planet because the degenerate love of money(now) is always stronger than the fear of the costs(later) due to the consequences of ignoring reality. The planet wide effects of co2 had billions of years of precedence yet the irrational and the inept masses rejected them all. Now they embrace the promise of easy planet wide solutions without any precedence that are a simple mater to test””.”””””””

  15. Geoengineering, is the deliberate and large-scale intervention in the Earth’s climate system. If 100+ years of intentionally altering the levels co2 of the planet by the entire human race does not qualify as geoengineering then nothing ever will.

    The purview of engineers irrelevant, the subject is, always has been and always will be the purview of societies the world over. The effects of co2 was well known for 100+ years, yet the the inept masses chooses to continue the geoengineering of the planet because the degenerate love of money(now) is always stronger than the fear of the costs(later) due to the consequences of ignoring reality.

    The planet wide effects of co2 had billions of years of precedence yet the irrational and the inept masses rejected them all. Now they embrace the promise of easy planet wide solutions without any precedence that are a “simple mater to test”.

  16. The author of this article is a crackpot. He has even suggested to pump SO2 (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere as part of his “geoengineering” suggestions. He is NOT a scientist and has been reviewed by real scientists (the global warming kind) who call out his bs. Wallace-Wells is the sensationalist type, doomsday sayer. His claims are absurd, and he freely admits it’s ok to scare people. Here is just one quote from a scientist who reviewed his latest book. “Similarly, it’s not obvious that there are any significantly missing feedbacks that should radically alter the linear perspective (certainly, any under-representation of surface albedo feedbacks in current models are unlikely to be the difference maker, since the polar regions make up a very small percentage of the globe and the surface contribution to the planetary albedo is somewhat masked by clouds).” That is a scientist’s way of say he is full of it. Even Michael Mann thinks this is bs – yeah the same fraudulent scientist of hockey stick fame. Brian – this has nothing to do with “next big future” unless you are starting to cite science fiction and Hollywood disaster movies stories as fact. I understand you are trying to make a point about air pollution and that it kills people and it’s better and cheaper to focus on that than trying to change the weather. I would encourage that you find better, peer-reviewed sources for this.

  17. The author of this article is a crackpot. He has even suggested to pump SO2 (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere as part of his geoengineering”” suggestions. He is NOT a scientist and has been reviewed by real scientists (the global warming kind) who call out his bs. Wallace-Wells is the sensationalist type”” doomsday sayer. His claims are absurd”” and he freely admits it’s ok to scare people. Here is just one quote from a scientist who reviewed his latest book.””””Similarly”” it’s not obvious that there are any significantly missing feedbacks that should radically alter the linear perspective (certainly any under-representation of surface albedo feedbacks in current models are unlikely to be the difference maker”” since the polar regions make up a very small percentage of the globe and the surface contribution to the planetary albedo is somewhat masked by clouds).”””” That is a scientist’s way of say he is full of it. Even Michael Mann thinks this is bs – yeah the same fraudulent scientist of hockey stick fame.Brian – this has nothing to do with “”””next big future”””” unless you are starting to cite science fiction and Hollywood disaster movies stories as fact. I understand you are trying to make a point about air pollution and that it kills people and it’s better and cheaper to focus on that than trying to change the weather. I would encourage that you find better”””” peer-reviewed sources for this.”””””””

  18. If there is even a 5% chance that this is real, we should develop the technology to deal with it, and test it. We are fools if we do not.

  19. If there is even a 5{22800fc54956079738b58e74e4dcd846757aa319aad70fcf90c97a58f3119a12} chance that this is real we should develop the technology to deal with it and test it. We are fools if we do not.

  20. I congratulate you on persuading all the 7-year-olds with that pearl. Is your position so weak that you can’t present rational arguments? Human induced climate change is not engineering. Ah yes, “Everyone burn this coal stuff for 100 years. It will make it hot and kill all that nasty coral reef stuff and help clear islands of all those pesky inhabitants with double the hurricanes and sea level rise.” Presenting arguments you know are rubbish to manipulate people. Very sad. You make all rational environmentalist look like buffoons when you present trash like this. I am sorry, but just because scientists discovered climate effects earlier than other people does not equip them or endow them the moral high ground to dictate the solution or divine what the best solution is. That is the purview of engineers. Too many idiot Environmentalists are not happy unless we suffer for our sins by eating leaves and bark and put 7/8 of the human population to death and all of the farm animals and companion animals. Hey, producing unnecessary suffering is STUPID. If we can have our cake an eat it too, we should. Duh! It is a simple mater to test the engineered solutions to evaluate them. I don’t think anyone wants to just pick one and do it everywhere without learning and quantifying the results. The Scientists have as much as said that the momentum cannot be stopped with very low heat gain even if every combustion source was turned off permanently tomorrow. That means we need to do something less passive and more active. That means geoengineering…unless you want to start sacrificing virgins to Gaia or something. Personally, I think we should save the virgins and try sacrificing idiots who think 7/8 of humanity is a waste, first.

  21. I congratulate you on persuading all the 7-year-olds with that pearl. Is your position so weak that you can’t present rational arguments? Human induced climate change is not engineering. Ah yes Everyone burn this coal stuff for 100 years. It will make it hot and kill all that nasty coral reef stuff and help clear islands of all those pesky inhabitants with double the hurricanes and sea level rise.”” Presenting arguments you know are rubbish to manipulate people. Very sad. You make all rational environmentalist look like buffoons when you present trash like this.I am sorry”” but just because scientists discovered climate effects earlier than other people does not equip them or endow them the moral high ground to dictate the solution or divine what the best solution is. That is the purview of engineers.Too many idiot Environmentalists are not happy unless we suffer for our sins by eating leaves and bark and put 7/8 of the human population to death and all of the farm animals and companion animals.Hey producing unnecessary suffering is STUPID. If we can have our cake an eat it too we should. Duh!It is a simple mater to test the engineered solutions to evaluate them. I don’t think anyone wants to just pick one and do it everywhere without learning and quantifying the results.The Scientists have as much as said that the momentum cannot be stopped with very low heat gain even if every combustion source was turned off permanently tomorrow. That means we need to do something less passive and more active. That means geoengineering…unless you want to start sacrificing virgins to Gaia or something. Personally I think we should save the virgins and try sacrificing idiots who think 7/8 of humanity is a waste”” first.”””

  22. Yep its a scam cause so alt right site told ya. SOOO you are so sure then where are your sources. I have provided you links to lists of hundreds of recognized scientific organizations from round the world. Yet you are soo certain everyone else is stupid. Better look in the mirror. Don’t you Just deniers who are somehow convinced that the you have been given the inside scope about a scam? So when you ask them where they got their information then they get defensive cause admitting get got punked instead of the inside scope is too much for their closed minds.

  23. Yep its a scam cause so alt right site told ya. SOOO you are so sure then where are your sources. I have provided you links to lists of hundreds of recognized scientific organizations from round the world. Yet you are soo certain everyone else is stupid. Better look in the mirror. Don’t you Just deniers who are somehow convinced that the you have been given the inside scope about a scam? So when you ask them where they got their information then they get defensive cause admitting get got punked instead of the inside scope is too much for their closed minds.

  24. A 100+ years of geoengineering, which cannot be reversed quickly, turned out to have very bad long term consequences and the best solution is not to stop but to engage in different long term geoengineering. Sounds like the perfect solution to the credulous masses who reject basic physics as a tenet of their defective world view.

  25. A 100+ years of geoengineering which cannot be reversed quickly turned out to have very bad long term consequences and the best solution is not to stop but to engage in different long term geoengineering.Sounds like the perfect solution to the credulous masses who reject basic physics as a tenet of their defective world view.

  26. The author of this article is a crackpot. He has even suggested to pump SO2 (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere as part of his “geoengineering” suggestions. He is NOT a scientist and has been reviewed by real scientists (the global warming kind) who call out his bs.
    Wallace-Wells is the sensationalist type, doomsday sayer. His claims are absurd, and he freely admits it’s ok to scare people. Here is just one quote from a scientist who reviewed his latest book.

    “Similarly, it’s not obvious that there are any significantly missing feedbacks that should radically alter the linear perspective (certainly, any under-representation of surface albedo feedbacks in current models are unlikely to be the difference maker, since the polar regions make up a very small percentage of the globe and the surface contribution to the planetary albedo is somewhat masked by clouds).”

    That is a scientist’s way of say he is full of it. Even Michael Mann thinks this is bs – yeah the same fraudulent scientist of hockey stick fame.

    Brian – this has nothing to do with “next big future” unless you are starting to cite science fiction and Hollywood disaster movies stories as fact. I understand you are trying to make a point about air pollution and that it kills people and it’s better and cheaper to focus on that than trying to change the weather. I would encourage that you find better, peer-reviewed sources for this.

  27. I congratulate you on persuading all the 7-year-olds with that pearl. Is your position so weak that you can’t present rational arguments? Human induced climate change is not engineering.

    Ah yes, “Everyone burn this coal stuff for 100 years. It will make it hot and kill all that nasty coral reef stuff and help clear islands of all those pesky inhabitants with double the hurricanes and sea level rise.” Presenting arguments you know are rubbish to manipulate people. Very sad.

    You make all rational environmentalist look like buffoons when you present trash like this.

    I am sorry, but just because scientists discovered climate effects earlier than other people does not equip them or endow them the moral high ground to dictate the solution or divine what the best solution is. That is the purview of engineers.

    Too many idiot Environmentalists are not happy unless we suffer for our sins by eating leaves and bark and put 7/8 of the human population to death and all of the farm animals and companion animals.

    Hey, producing unnecessary suffering is STUPID. If we can have our cake an eat it too, we should. Duh!

    It is a simple mater to test the engineered solutions to evaluate them. I don’t think anyone wants to just pick one and do it everywhere without learning and quantifying the results.

    The Scientists have as much as said that the momentum cannot be stopped with very low heat gain even if every combustion source was turned off permanently tomorrow. That means we need to do something less passive and more active. That means geoengineering…unless you want to start sacrificing virgins to Gaia or something. Personally, I think we should save the virgins and try sacrificing idiots who think 7/8 of humanity is a waste, first.

  28. Yep its a scam cause so alt right site told ya. SOOO you are so sure then where are your sources. I have provided you links to lists of hundreds of recognized scientific organizations from round the world. Yet you are soo certain everyone else is stupid. Better look in the mirror. Don’t you Just deniers who are somehow convinced that the you have been given the inside scope about a scam? So when you ask them where they got their information then they get defensive cause admitting get got punked instead of the inside scope is too much for their closed minds.

  29. A 100+ years of geoengineering, which cannot be reversed quickly, turned out to have very bad long term consequences and the best solution is not to stop but to engage in different long term geoengineering.
    Sounds like the perfect solution to the credulous masses who reject basic physics as a tenet of their defective world view.

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