China’s J-10 fighter has been upgraded with thrust vectoring controls. This allows for better aerial movement.
The J-10 is a copy of the American F-16. The Chinese J-10 was built with Israeli assistance from Israel’s F-16-based Lavi fighter. It is about fifteen years behind the F-16 platform and much further behind the F-35 stealth fighter.
Thrust vectoring is in the US F-22 and Russian Sukhoi Su-30 and the newer Su-35.
The US did not bother to add thrust vectoring to later version of the F-15, F-18 Super Hornet, F-16, or the F-35. Although thrust vectoring is useful but U.S. manufacturers haven’t prioritized thrust vectoring.
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J-10 would likely be used for less hardcore missions like coast guard or border control. They prob equip it with a machine gun and a few missiles to put its vector thrusting at full potential.
its hard to educate the un-brainwashed but really dumb american
you usa containership type, twice
J-10 would likely be used for less hardcore missions like coast guard or border control. They prob equip it with a machine gun and a few missiles to put its vector thrusting at full potential.
its hard to educate the un-brainwashed but really dumb american
you usa containership type, twice
“There are numerous video clips and cell phone clips taken by the massive crowd watching the airshow “So? Not this fake job.”And yes many US military officials were present at the Zuhai Airshow “So? Doesn’t prove that this is not an altered photo.
China has both longer range radars and longer range missiles The US doesn’t have longer ranged AA missiles because they don’t have the radar range plain and simple
Warren you are the perfect example of Poe’s LawThis picture comes from the Zuhai airshow taking place this week from 11/5-11/10, and is a convention on Chinese aerospace tech There are numerous video clips and cell phone clips taken by the massive crowd watching the airshow And yes many US military officials were present at the Zuhai Airshow This is a fighter with Canards and thrust vectoring and anyone with basic engineering knowledge knows how impressive this is The moveable Canards and thrust vectoring are both introducing instabilities into the aircraft and everything needs to be compensated with software in order to keep the damn thing from dropping
Its not the latest gen J-10 is far better than the latest gen F-16 The J-10 has KLJ-10 radar with detection range 170km, while the F-16 uses APG – 83 (Detection range 120km engagement range 84 km)The J-10 is most likely using metamaterial antennas The J-10 is far stealthier, and with the WS-10b serrated afterburner nozzles and supersonic diverterless inlet. This means the J-10 will have a much smaller RCSThe Engine is far more powerful than the engine on the F-16The J-10 is far more maneuverable since it has Canards, it can turn instantaneously while the F-16 can’t (This is one of the reasons why the F-22 has thrust vectoring so it can turn instantaneously)J-10 has better loading with delta canard The F-16 was designed for close range dogfights, The J-10 was designed for both close range and BVR range fights and it sacrifices neither. In a straight up fight the J-10 is likely to destroy the F-16 BVR, and walk away unscratched
“There are numerous video clips and cell phone clips taken by the massive crowd watching the airshow ”
So? Not this fake job.
“And yes many US military officials were present at the Zuhai Airshow ”
So? Doesn’t prove that this is not an altered photo.
>F-16 copyLooks more like a one engined Eurofighter to me.
I know, right? F-16 = Conventional wing/tail. J-10 = Delta wing/canard. So obviously, “J-10 is a copy of the American F-16.” LOL.
No, not just the Iraqis. The USAF also has COMBAT EXPERIENCE fighting goat herders in Afghanistan.
So which AA missiles does the US have that are more sophisticated than the Chinese PL-10 and PL-15 missiles?
Yes, the Chinese copied the same technology we used to fake the NASA moon landings. LOL.
China has both longer range radars and longer range missiles
The US doesn’t have longer ranged AA missiles because they don’t have the radar range plain and simple
Warren you are the perfect example of Poe’s Law
This picture comes from the Zuhai airshow taking place this week from 11/5-11/10, and is a convention on Chinese aerospace tech
There are numerous video clips and cell phone clips taken by the massive crowd watching the airshow
And yes many US military officials were present at the Zuhai Airshow
This is a fighter with Canards and thrust vectoring and anyone with basic engineering knowledge knows how impressive this is
The moveable Canards and thrust vectoring are both introducing instabilities into the aircraft and everything needs to be compensated with software in order to keep the damn thing from dropping
Its not the latest gen J-10 is far better than the latest gen F-16
The J-10 has KLJ-10 radar with detection range 170km, while the F-16 uses APG – 83 (Detection range 120km engagement range 84 km)
The J-10 is most likely using metamaterial antennas
The J-10 is far stealthier, and with the WS-10b serrated afterburner nozzles and supersonic diverterless inlet. This means the J-10 will have a much smaller RCS
The Engine is far more powerful than the engine on the F-16
The J-10 is far more maneuverable since it has Canards, it can turn instantaneously while the F-16 can’t (This is one of the reasons why the F-22 has thrust vectoring so it can turn instantaneously)
J-10 has better loading with delta canard
The F-16 was designed for close range dogfights, The J-10 was designed for both close range and BVR range fights and it sacrifices neither.
In a straight up fight the J-10 is likely to destroy the F-16 BVR, and walk away unscratched
Perhaps you could be a bit more honest with the following alterations:The J-10 has apparent airframe design DNA derived from the US F-16 through technology transfer from the defunct Israeli Lavi program. The J-10 is 30 years NEWER than the F-16 with far more modern avionics, aerodynamics, materials and now engines. The J-10 is actually in production and is evolving rapidly through it’s iterations to become a formidable and cost effective multirole fighter. The US has nothing comparable to this in production.
How can a copy of something be 2 decades behind that something?
A spinning target flying is space or one place where an off bore sight missile can easily knock down from just thousands of feet away. Is why the US pursued more important tactics AA missiles are more sophisticated and lethal than a vectoring top spinning in space.
>F-16 copy
Looks more like a one engined Eurofighter to me.
Do the USAF have any COMBAT EXPERIENCE against anyone competent? Or just the Iraqis?
I know, right? F-16 = Conventional wing/tail. J-10 = Delta wing/canard. So obviously, “J-10 is a copy of the American F-16.” LOL.
No, not just the Iraqis. The USAF also has COMBAT EXPERIENCE fighting goat herders in Afghanistan.
As with their “aircraft carrier” (soviet knockoff), they can put these things on anything they want, but, the problem with the Chinese military, is akin to a lot of the soviet military. It’s “for show”. They do not have the COMBAT TACTICS experience of the western allies. You can have all the hardware you want, looks good in a parade, but unless you have the EXPERIENCE and combat tactics, you can’t really deploy an effective fighting force, unless you simply overwhelm them with numbers, which get slaughtered.
So which AA missiles does the US have that are more sophisticated than the Chinese PL-10 and PL-15 missiles?
Yes, the Chinese copied the same technology we used to fake the NASA moon landings. LOL.
Notice how the photos/videos have the cables holding the planes removed and you can’t see the gimballed fans in the frame that are blowing the colored smoke around?
Perhaps you could be a bit more honest with the following alterations:
The J-10 has apparent airframe design DNA derived from the US F-16 through technology transfer from the defunct Israeli Lavi program.
The J-10 is 30 years NEWER than the F-16 with far more modern avionics, aerodynamics, materials and now engines.
The J-10 is actually in production and is evolving rapidly through it’s iterations to become a formidable and cost effective multirole fighter. The US has nothing comparable to this in production.
How can a copy of something be 2 decades behind that something?
A spinning target flying is space or one place where an off bore sight missile can easily knock down from just thousands of feet away. Is why the US pursued more important tactics AA missiles are more sophisticated and lethal than a vectoring top spinning in space.
Do the USAF have any COMBAT EXPERIENCE against anyone competent? Or just the Iraqis?
As with their “aircraft carrier” (soviet knockoff), they can put these things on anything they want, but, the problem with the Chinese military, is akin to a lot of the soviet military. It’s “for show”. They do not have the COMBAT TACTICS experience of the western allies. You can have all the hardware you want, looks good in a parade, but unless you have the EXPERIENCE and combat tactics, you can’t really deploy an effective fighting force, unless you simply overwhelm them with numbers, which get slaughtered.
Notice how the photos/videos have the cables holding the planes removed and you can’t see the gimballed fans in the frame that are blowing the colored smoke around?
>F-16 copyLooks more like a one engined Eurofighter to me.
Perhaps you could be a bit more honest with the following alterations:The J-10 has apparent airframe design DNA derived from the US F-16 through technology transfer from the defunct Israeli Lavi program. The J-10 is 30 years NEWER than the F-16 with far more modern avionics, aerodynamics, materials and now engines. The J-10 is actually in production and is evolving rapidly through it’s iterations to become a formidable and cost effective multirole fighter. The US has nothing comparable to this in production.
How can a copy of something be 2 decades behind that something?
A spinning target flying is space or one place where an off bore sight missile can easily knock down from just thousands of feet away. Is why the US pursued more important tactics AA missiles are more sophisticated and lethal than a vectoring top spinning in space.
As with their “aircraft carrier” (soviet knockoff), they can put these things on anything they want, but, the problem with the Chinese military, is akin to a lot of the soviet military. It’s “for show”. They do not have the COMBAT TACTICS experience of the western allies. You can have all the hardware you want, looks good in a parade, but unless you have the EXPERIENCE and combat tactics, you can’t really deploy an effective fighting force, unless you simply overwhelm them with numbers, which get slaughtered.