China Tesla Model 3 Will Be $28,000 and Tesla has a 44% Electric Motor Advantage

The Tesla Model 3 had the best electronics teardown expert Sandy Munro’s team has ever seen. It had the lowest number of hoses, 40% less harnesses, and the electric motors are smaller, lighter, and more powerful than the competition.

Munro says if Tesla optimizes the Model 3’s production in China, the electric vehicle will generate a lot of profit for the company. Tesla will fix the production line and bodywork issues.

Tesla will have lower labor costs in China.

At about 44 minutes, Munro says Tesla should be able to pull over 20% of the cost of out of the car in the China Gigafactory. Tesla should already be able to make 30% gross margin on a $37,000 Tesla Model 3 car.

Halbach Magnet Critical to Tesla Engine

A Halbach array is a special arrangement of permanent magnets that augments the magnetic field on one side of the array while canceling the field to near zero on the other side. This is achieved by having a spatially rotating pattern of magnetization.

The advantages of one-sided flux distributions are twofold:

* The field is twice as large on the side on which the flux is confined (in the idealized case).
* There is no stray field produced (in the ideal case) on the opposite side. This helps with field confinement, usually a problem in the design of magnetic structures.

Tesla Has a Unique Cooling System

The Tesla cooling system requires crossing over many lines.

63 thoughts on “China Tesla Model 3 Will Be $28,000 and Tesla has a 44% Electric Motor Advantage”

  1. Very close to the top and probably the biggest per capita among the major countries
    Maybe bin Laden killed innocents, but trimming a few american lives can have helped the environment !

  2. Destabilizing a tumor can be a good thing, it usually is.
    And the revenge the American got was a useless war that dried up trillions of dollars of their economy which is now being passed by China !

  3. That is not what bin Laden did. And it likely destabilized things. It had the potential for a much bigger response. And the American people were thirsty for revenge. Luckily, it go as far as it could. The aftereffects were bad enough.

  4. This is what bin Laden did !
    Killed 3000 americans to weaken the US empire and lead the world to more balanced situation
    Are you suggesting that the civilians killed in 9/11 did not die in vain after all ?

  5. A pollutant is a substance or energy
    introduced into the environment that has undesired effects, or adversely affects the usefulness of a resource.

    Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere absorb most of the Earth’s emitted longwave infrared radiation, which heats the lower atmosphere. In turn, the warmed atmosphere emits longwave radiation, some of which radiates toward the Earth’s surface, keeping our planet warm and generally comfortable. Ever increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane increase the temperature of the lower atmosphere by restricting the outward passage of emitted radiation, resulting in “global warming,” or, more broadly, global climate change. Ever increasing amounts of trapped solar radiation is undesirable.

    158 years ago, John Tyndal published laboratory results identifying carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas that absorbed heat rays (longwave radiation) in the journal: Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. Vol. 151 (1861)

    Since then, the absorptive qualities of carbon dioxide have been more precisely quantified by decades of laboratory measurements.
    I assume you know how to do a Digital Object Identifier(doi) search for these supporting research papers


  6. Could be considered starting a small, regional conventional war to prevent a potential massive, world war with nuclear weapon usage risks.

  7. The expected global cost of attempting to mitigate the effects of global warming are estimated to be $100-120 trillion by 2100. The estimated worst case warming scenario has a projected cost of $60-80 trillion by 2100. Without regarding the effects of new technology development. It is more effective to develop adaptation strategies. Cheaper and less likely to completely disrupt modern civilization.

  8. Most of the scientific community believes that GW is a problem and mostly man made. What are your scientific credentials to prove otherwise?

  9. We spend trillions in waging unnecessary wars against third world countries.
    I do not think spending a few billions or tens of billions for the planet is such a bad thing.
    In your case, please tell me what is your master plan to solve climate change then, curious..

  10. You’re assuming that “trying” doesn’t have costs.
    If “trying” costs 10s to 100s of millions of dollars and uses up 50% of the “pro-evironmentalism” political capital available, then no, trying and failing is not better than not trying at all.

  11. Better to try and fail and achieve 1% of what have been stated than not try at ll and achieve 0%, other cynics may point out

  12. Really? How so when the US barely gets any oil from there and hasn’t for decades?

    That’s right. After the last oil shock in the 70s, we changed our sources to Nigeria and Venezuela, etc. And now we are a net exporter of oil, which makes us de facto independent from all foreign sources.

    That the idiots in Hawaii and California import oil still from the mid east is purely a reflection on those states’ poor energy policies (California will not allow more oil development in-state nor will it allow pipelines to be build so as much fracked shale oil from the east could be made available. Why? Pure libtard politics.)

    So how is any of that oil non-sourced from the ME being subsidized by our involvement in the ME ? I’ll give you a big geopolitical hint as to why we were in the ME..especially for Iraq 1 & 2: Securing oil for our allies and trading partners. We did it to save the Asian and European economies, basically. But thanks to Trumpism, that is getting real old for Americans and we won’t be doing that for much longer.

    And we’ve always been energy independent where coal is concerned. A net exporter there, too. Still are. So how is that being subsidized by our involvement in the middle east?

  13. Yellow Vest protesters in Paris erected a guillotine bearing the name of Emmanuel Macron’s political party ‘En Marche’ in a direct threat to the under-fire French President.

    The move came as the country’s finance minister warned the violent protests sweeping the country are a ‘catastrophe’ for the nation’s economy.

  14. The point is that celebrating a voluntary accord with no mechanism for actually accomplishing anything is a distraction from any real achievement.
    By making a big deal about something meaningless (but expensive) all the political capital and publicity would be wasted getting nowhere.

    Cynics might point out that this could be the intent all along.

  15. CO2 is not a pollutant. Certainly not at the levels in our atmosphere or even at the most dire, alarmist (and totally BS) levels the IPCC and Watermelons try to scare us it will be anyway.

  16. How can one enforce a non-binding, non-Treaty?

    That’s the entire point: It was a joke from Day One.

  17. Not to what other extraction industries pay. Depletion allowances are available to basically every industry where normal operations draw down a finite resource.

  18. Don’t worry, be happy! Once the Yellow Jackets come to power the environmentalist and Global Warming experts will have nothing to worry about. They will be without their heads. Think 1794 France.

  19. The best part of your comment is that it could have been made about just about ANY side in politics.

    I can’t tell from your words whether you are supporting the Democrats, the Australian Labor party, Front National, Socialdemokraterna, Parti Socialiste, UKIP…

    Or whether you are just talking about politics in general.

  20. Exactly. A distributed blockchain AI quantum direct democracy voting system might be “more accurate and harder to defraud” but 5% of the population even vaguely understand how it works, and only 5% of them have enough of a solid grasp to be sure that there isn’t some sneaky back door that lets people fake the results.

    Then 99.75% of the population don’t trust the system. So it doesn’t work.

    Pencil marks on paper that is counted by a committee of local people, some of whom you might know personally, and representing different sides of politics: People understand that, see how it works, see how it would be difficult to skew the results more than a tiny bit… it works and it is seen to work.

  21. Technically you are right they are called tax preferences and not subsidies. 😉

    I could get technical about oil… Percentage Depletion, Intangible Drilling Costs, etc. But all in all they are a pretty sweet deal compared to what other businesses pay.

  22. “My argument is the cost of ignoring it and being wrong, in that global warming happens is more than the cost of not ignoring it and being either right or wrong abiout global warming happening.”

    ^^^Are you really, really, really sure about that?
    Think about bio-diesels and tropical forests, or “road to Hell” and “good intentions”.

  23. Just exterminate 15% of the termites and you have nullified the whole human emissions. They are ugly and stupid anyway. How’s that for geo-… bio-engineering away our problems?

  24. Boy oh boy, you are all over the place…

    The solar minimum bit… the glaciers have been melting long enough to not be able to blame that on a solar minimum (which we are just starting to enter by the way.) I think you are ignoring the most important bit about global warming which is the CO2 levels and the basic physics of the Green House Effect. Also, you are ignoring the historical record. The last time the CO2 level got this high the temperatures went way up.

    Your last paragraph is pretty much right. My argument is the cost of ignoring it and being wrong, in that global warming happens is more than the cost of not ignoring it and being either right or wrong abiout global warming happening. To be more complete you consider in the probabilities but I’m keeping it simple.

  25. Heinlein, really????

    Though that lying bit seems to remind me of somebody in the news recently… hmmm… let me think… 😉 😉 😉

  26. Thank you, you hit my point exactly. Whether the price comes from the taxpayer or if you see it at the pump is irrelevant.

  27. To be fair, we have expended a huge amount of military resources in the Middle East with the aim of keeping a war there from cutting off supplies of oil.

    But that wasn’t so much a price subsidy, as an effort to prevent the world economy from crashing. As it would have if oil had suddenly become significantly unavailable; You can only change energy sources so fast.

    The chief justification for saying coal is subsidized is just that the price hasn’t been artificially raised to account for supposed externalities.

  28. It also misses the fact that, for politics, the system must not merely be reliable, but most people must be able to understand it enough to trust that it is reliable.

    For this reason really complicated systems should generally be avoided in a political context.

  29. No, I was pointing out the recent drop in oil prices that took place even as more of our troops are being pulled out of the Middle East. The point was that military intervention is not a hidden cost that artificially decreases the price of fossil fuels for consumers but, in actuality, causes the price to increase. If your claim that an interventionist military artificially decreases the cost of fossil fuels was true, than taking more of our soldiers out of the Middle East should cause fossil fuel prices to increase. Instead, it’s the opposite. It was fracking and not the Iraq War that caused the price of fossil fuels to go down by increasing oil production in the US. Nuclear energy was mentioned in order to point out that more can be done by developing resources here at home than fighting over resources abroad just as fossil fuel prices dropped when the use of fracking spiked.

    Also, you’re contradicting yourself by saying that the military is subsidy and artificially lowers the price of oil and then saying that the Iraq War caused the price to skyrocket. Hidden costs make goods and services appear cheaper than they’re actually are. The sudden spike in oil prices proved my earlier point that more was accomplished through developing technology and that war makes things more expensive, not less.

  30. We ship coal to the US from the middle east?

    Well that would be news. And downright wasteful.

    I suppose that up next you will say that we are subsidizing cars by having a gas tax for roads.

  31. The difference between stupid and ignorant is that the first is permanent and the second can be remedied.

  32. ” If that is not subsidizing it, I have no idea what to call it. ”  <–  Correct, you have no idea.

  33. The price of gas in the US jumped almost 400% in the first few months of the Iraq War II. If that is not subsidizing it, I have no idea what to call it. If we have bases and troops in the middle east, that is subsidizing it even if you do not see the cost. All the fracking and nuclear reactors are not going to make up for that, unless it eliminates oil from our energy portfolio like electric vehicles looks set to do.

  34. When one part loses all respect, paints the counterpart as evil and dehumanizes the other, there is no way to have a reasonable dialog.

    Understanding is capitulation and dialog is akin to treason.

    And this can emerge just by radicalizing your views, without any external help. The others didn’t budge towards the abyss. Your group did.

  35. Love your country, but never trust its government. —Robert A. Heinlein
    The answer to any question starting, “Why don’t they—” is almost always, “Money.”  —Robert A. Heinlein
    Reason is poor propaganda when opposed by the yammering, unceasing lies of shrewd and evil and self-serving men. —Robert A. Heinlein
    Politicians are like baby diapers; both should be changed often and for the same reason.  —Unknown
    You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity. —Robert A. Heinlein

  36. The price of oil dropped even though blood and treasure was spent in the Middle East. And this happened about the same time we relied more on ingenuity on getting our oil (fracking) than on sending people to die over Middle East politics. More ingenuity and entrepreneurship will make us even more energy independent with Gen IV nuclear reactors and, eventually, fusion energy. Then the Saudi can keep their oil. It’s happening right now. OPEC isn’t the financial juggernaut that everyone thought they were and it’s all going downhill from here.

  37. Yes, so many pols make distant promises so they look good and they need to make no hard choices. Why didn’t Obama even push for a higher gasoline tax after he made a crazy high 25% target for the US?

    Lower CO2 per unit of GDP is a good economic trend anyway so we should continue to encourage (or at least not block) more efficient technology and systems that just happen to lower CO2. Of course fracking->NatGas has led the USA’s very dramatic turnaround from steeply increasing to steeply decreasing (boosted by the deep 2008 recession). We continue to cut coal and export coal reducing LNG to the world.

    How do we even know there really is global warming? Usually melting glaciers and ice packs are cited. Although there may be a human caused component to global warming -> climate change there are other non-human forces at work. One is the Solar Min that lowers the atmosphere and allows the jet stream to wander wildly, creating record rain in the East US this year, and polar vortexes, record cold Thanksgiving… You can create a model that shows even with a bit less heat in the entire system very north and south diving jet streams can increase the number of “melt days” say above 35 deg F everywhere … leading to ice loss over the years even if the average temp is slightly lower. This models observations better than greenhouse gas led global warming.

    But just in case it is man-made CO2, lets reduce CO2 emissions slowly but constantly through win-win economic solutions.

  38. As the old saying goes, democracy is the worst form of government ever invented, except for everything else.

  39. Coal and heavy oil aren’t subsidized, though. Greens just like to call the fact that they’re not penalized as much as they’d like a “subsidy”.

  40. It’s quite possible to develop technologies that both reduce our pollution of the air, water and soil and at the same time give us all a better standard of living. All the subsidies for coal and heavy oil are a complete waste – if the money were spent on new ideas it would produce 10 times the return.

  41. I agree with the first part of your statement. The last part is simply liberal propaganda in the current U.S.

    You must fall into the category of your last 3 words. First of all, everyone is racist on some level. Being human pretty much forces that. Second, I do not believe that the majority of the U.S. population is borderline-illiterate. They might be easily fallen to propaganda, but it hardly requires illiteracy for that to happen.

  42. Yeah, but decentralized technocracy based on blockchain would require to remake the whole system, and the very way how citizens see themselves.

  43. We really need a better way to select our leaders other than a competitive lying contest between elderly lawyers and used car salesmen for the votes of borderline-illiterate racists.

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