Elon Musk discusses the future of humanity with Michael Milken, touching on topics such as birth rates, the most impactful factors shaping our future, and his vision of a multiplanetary species.
Elon Musk was at the 27th annual Global Conference hosted by the Milken Institute, which was livestreamed from May 6 to 8, 2024.
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Topics:
What will most impact humanity’s future
Becoming a multiplanetary species
Aliens & the precariousness of civilization
Freedom of speech
Socialism
Merit & discrimination
Regulation
Education & gamification
Immigration
Starlink & access to information
Rise and fall of civilizations
Dying on Mars (but not on impact)
Passing a Fermi Great Filter
AI needs to be truth-seeking
Birth rate (if possible, have at least 3 kids)
What keeps Elon up at night

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WTF is will.i.am doing there?
The more controls and restriction of movement and degradation of privacy we experience, the less likely we are to succeed as a species, let alone a civilization.
And ending aging for anyone who wants it, regardless of their social or economic situation.
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There is no saving humanity without more humans to keep us looking forward into the future.
A degrowing world with ever less humans and more robots and AI is another version of dystopia. One slightly less ugly than just flat-out war, misery and extinction, but a tragedy
nonetheless.
Some say eventual ASI will free us from the slavery of jobs and give us lives of leisure, making people have kids because lack of something better to do, but I’m unconvinced.
We have it better than any humans in history and still we’re going down. The risks of pregnancy and life long diseases, loss of freedom and the need of some commitment scares people away.
It may happen that high fertility is another manifestation of “ignorance is bliss”, requiring uneducated people that know no better to really happen. In that case, the future of civilization ain’t pretty. We will have to come full circle, cancel civilization and start anew here or somewhere else to ensure humanity goes on.
You cannot seriously forecast long term in any ethical or efficient way without considering ending aging.
I too like to entertain the notion that we will end aging and that we will then grow in population forever, not losing any skills or souls that once lived whatsoever.
But the long and most reliable experience of humankind so far, is that betting against death is a losing proposition.
My current view is that we will find 1000 increasingly complex cures for 1000 increasingly hard to cure old age ailments… an still continue dying of something else. The fight against death is a fight against a hydra of uncountable heads that can each also take you down. Those of the systemic failures of a tired organism.
Hence my skepticism.
Ultimately we’re going to have to reverse engineer biology, and design an immortal humanity from scratch, I think. Aging and death are just too deeply embedded in our biology.
But that’s not to say that lesser interventions couldn’t push things out to several centuries, particularly if we ever get nanotech working.
And who determines what makes human civilization valuable? Is it our group intelligence or compassion? To me, the latter matters a lot more. Because at the end of the day which society is more likely to survive, because it cares about others, as much as they care about themselves.