PESN had a 1.5-hour interview with Robert W. George II, who serves as CEO; as well as with the inventor, Robert Godes (pronounced “God” – “ez”), who serves as CTO. Since they are both named Robert, the way they distinguish between them is that Robert George goes by “Bob”. And the inventor goes by “Robert.”
Brillouin has had two significant independent validations of their scientific model and claims. One of those was by Los Alamos National Laboratories. The other was by Dr. Michael McKubre of Standford Research International (SRI), who subsequently joined their board of advisors. McKubre was especially impressed by the consistency of the results. This was the first time (in the LENR experimental arena) that he was able to repeat something every time, without exception.
One of the next development steps is going to involve a relationship with SRI to build and test the Brillouin New Hydrogen Boiler™ (NHB™) or “Hot Tube”, entailing BEC’s new dry boiler system, which will be capable of heats from 400ºC to 500ºC. This technology will be capable of running power plant turbines. Licensing this boiler technology is going to be the lowest hanging fruit because of the number of power plant systems that have been mothballed by increasingly stringent EPA regulations. By re-energizing these “stranded assets,” the capital cost of building a system is dramatically reduced, since the only thing they have to add is the clean boiler.
BEC expects to be able to generate power at 1 cent per kilowatt-hour with no toxic emissions of any kind. The wholesale price for electricity is typically 4-15 cents per kilowatt-hour
Brillouin’s other product, which is already developed and proven from thousands hours of focused testing, is called the Brillouin Boiler™. It is their original wet boiler system, containing distilled water and electrolyte. It is designed to produce heat between 100ºC and 150ºC. The prototype of this Boiler is continuing to run tests at the company’s Berkeley lab.
With limitations in their budget, they had to use off-the-shelf components and cobble together something to prove the principle. Once with get adequate funding, they will be able to build a wet boiler system that is optimal to their design.
According to Robert, this is not Nickel-Hydrogen fusion reaction. Nickel is merely a catalyst.
Robert said that the nuclear process they are utilizing is the same (though better understood and thus controlled) as is being used by their competitors: Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat, Defkalion’s Hyperion, Piantelli’s Nichenergy, George Miley’s LENUCO, and Celani’s Cold Fusion Energy Inc., for example.
Here is how it works.
“A tiny amount of hydrogen protons are converted into neutrons. These newly produced neutrons are soon captured by hydrogen ions or other atoms in a metallic (e.g. nickel) lattice near to where the hydrogen ions were converted to neutrons. The captured neutrons generate heat because the new atoms that are one neutron heavier shed excess binding energy as heat to the lattice, resulting in a dramatically clean, low-cost, hi-quality heat output.”
Robert says that “cold fusion” definitely is not an accurate name for it, and neither is LENR. It does not involved conventional nuclear fission or hot nuclear fusion processes. He has renamed the process Controlled Electron Capture Reactions or CECR, or “phonon-moderated hydrogen reactions.”
Robert expects that a BEC system will last 3-5 years without needing any servicing, including refill or replacement of the nickel lattice.
Some of you might be wondering why Brillouin would be thinking they could be first when 1) Andrea Rossi claims to have already made it to market with his 1 MW plant (story), and 2) Defkalion expects to begin rollout in July of this year (story).
Regarding Rossi’s 1 MW plant… From what I understand, it can’t be considered “commercial” yet because they are still working out the bugs. It’s in beta at best, and is likely to stay there for a long time because of Rossi’s tendency to rush through the mechanics, thinking he has a commercial unit when he has something that works.
Regarding Defkalion… What is going to be ready by July is a fully operational prototype. The licensees will then need to engineer that for production and ramp up for production. That can take 6-18 months.