Elon Musk made a serious attempt to provide another rescue option for the boys trapped in the Thai cave with a mini-sub. His newest commitment is to fund fixing Flint water contamination.
Elon Musk is building a long list of projects to save people with problems.
Elon has of course been working on
* Tesla electric cars to solve the air pollution of oil
* SolarCity to provide electric power to displace coal and other fossil fuel and save the environment
* SpaceX to enable mankind to eventually have Mars as a backup planet and to make humanity a true spacefaring civilization
Please consider this a commitment that I will fund fixing the water in any house in Flint that has water contamination above FDA levels. No kidding.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 11, 2018
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The problem you failed to highlight was that the government knew about the problem for over 18 months!!! It was swept under the rug for too long and there’s records that show the Governor knew about it. The results for such a long period of exposure resulted in a net community health and IQ loss.
The problem you failed to highlight was that the government knew about the problem for over 18 months!!! It was swept under the rug for too long and there’s records that show the Governor knew about it. The results for such a long period of exposure resulted in a net community health and IQ loss.
And the federal EPA knew of the problem, but *didn’t tell anyone* because, reasons.
And the federal EPA knew of the problem but *didn’t tell anyone* because” reasons. “” “””
I’m puzzled. The only (technical!) problem in Flint was that they failed to remineralize the water. Normally Flint was connected to the Detroit water system, which supplied water with a high enough mineral content to seal the interior of lead pipes. But Detroit was cranking up their prices, so Flint entered into an agreement with a number of other communities to build a competing system. As soon as Detroit heard of it, they jacked their prices up to extortionate levels. Flint responded by using an emergency system which took water from one of the Great Lakes. But, incompetently, didn’t utilize the remineralization system. The soft water dissolved the minerals that had been deposited on the inside of lead pipes, and then started dissolving the lead pipes themselves. This is a solved problem: SOP for water systems dealing with soft water is to add enough minerals to keep this from happening, at a cost of several dollars a day for the whole system. Flint, incompetently, didn’t do this. The real problem here is that the state EPA didn’t want to tell Flint what to do, because of racial issues. (The black communities in Michigan get really pissy if the state government intervenes.) And the federal EPA knew of the problem, but *didn’t tell anyone* because, reasons. So a bunch of people got poisoned, but the bottom line is that the only thing that actually needed to be done was adding minerals to the water. And the actual poisoning was the Flint water department’s fault, though you can fault state and federal authorities, (Mainly federal in this case.) for *not telling anybody*. Would it be better if there weren’t lead pipes? Sure. But, again, solved problem, you don’t get lead leaching from the pipes if you properly mineralize the water.
I’m puzzled. The only (technical!) problem in Flint was that they failed to remineralize the water.Normally Flint was connected to the Detroit water system which supplied water with a high enough mineral content to seal the interior of lead pipes. But Detroit was cranking up their prices so Flint entered into an agreement with a number of other communities to build a competing system.As soon as Detroit heard of it they jacked their prices up to extortionate levels. Flint responded by using an emergency system which took water from one of the Great Lakes.But incompetently didn’t utilize the remineralization system. The soft water dissolved the minerals that had been deposited on the inside of lead pipes and then started dissolving the lead pipes themselves.This is a solved problem: SOP for water systems dealing with soft water is to add enough minerals to keep this from happening at a cost of several dollars a day for the whole system. Flint incompetently didn’t do this.The real problem here is that the state EPA didn’t want to tell Flint what to do because of racial issues. (The black communities in Michigan get really pissy if the state government intervenes.) And the federal EPA knew of the problem but *didn’t tell anyone* because reasons.So a bunch of people got poisoned but the bottom line is that the only thing that actually needed to be done was adding minerals to the water. And the actual poisoning was the Flint water department’s fault though you can fault state and federal authorities (Mainly federal in this case.) for *not telling anybody*.Would it be better if there weren’t lead pipes? Sure. But again solved problem you don’t get lead leaching from the pipes if you properly mineralize the water.
Well according to the last census Flint has 102K people. It’s a bit presumptive to assume that people would what to move to what amounts to a housing project. Flint has a lot of systemic problems but the biggest one is the pipes. Maybe if Michigan which caused the mess would offer every household a relocation voucher equivalent to the value of the their property if it where in another viable city of the same size then that would be more fair and probably cheaper that fixing Flint’s pipes and even a small percentage of Flint’s other problems.
Well according to the last census Flint has 102K people. It’s a bit presumptive to assume that people would what to move to what amounts to a housing project. Flint has a lot of systemic problems but the biggest one is the pipes. Maybe if Michigan which caused the mess would offer every household a relocation voucher equivalent to the value of the their property if it where in another viable city of the same size then that would be more fair and probably cheaper that fixing Flint’s pipes and even a small percentage of Flint’s other problems.
Like you comment sort of… Really it is the condemning the community problem. You got a community of 55K people. I used to live in a Mitchell-Lama project in NYC with a population greater than that. Most of the housing and infrastructure in Flint is inferior, and very little in the way of the property is worth saving as historical landmarks or architecture. Many of the people in Flint could care less about living there and would just as well leave the place if they could afford to. The State of Michigan is responsible for the the water mess in particular, but basically you have a run down surplus city. The State of Michigan should simply fund the replacement of Flint with a Mitchell-Lama type community after it has paid to move as many of the population as are willing to leave. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PIPES.
Like you comment sort of… Really it is the condemning the community problem. You got a community of 55K people. I used to live in a Mitchell-Lama project in NYC with a population greater than that. Most of the housing and infrastructure in Flint is inferior and very little in the way of the property is worth saving as historical landmarks or architecture. Many of the people in Flint could care less about living there and would just as well leave the place if they could afford to. The State of Michigan is responsible for the the water mess in particular but basically you have a run down surplus city. The State of Michigan should simply fund the replacement of Flint with a Mitchell-Lama type community after it has paid to move as many of the population as are willing to leave. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PIPES.
OK… as long as he realizes this is good old fashioned pipes and plumbing that simply need to be replaced… If he starts coming out with bizarre engineering solutions I don’t think the much put upon people of Flint will want to have anything to do with it.
OK… as long as he realizes this is good old fashioned pipes and plumbing that simply need to be replaced… If he starts coming out with bizarre engineering solutions I don’t think the much put upon people of Flint will want to have anything to do with it.
At the time of the crisis Flint was being operated by state appointed emergency managers. The emergency managers made all the critical decisions leading up to the crisis including not adding remineralization agents to the water. There are indeed other people to blame after the crisis started but let’s be clear about who caused it.
Huge fan of musk but this is already a solved problem… flint is back on Detroit water supply (cause flint is incompetent in purifying their own) and the state/feds have funded a program to replace all led pipes over the next couple years… basically replacing all household connections in the city and all led pipes in the state over the next decade
At the time of the crisis Flint was being operated by state appointed emergency managers. The emergency managers made all the critical decisions leading up to the crisis including not adding remineralization agents to the water. There are indeed other people to blame after the crisis started but let’s be clear about who caused it.
Huge fan of musk but this is already a solved problem… flint is back on Detroit water supply (cause flint is incompetent in purifying their own) and the state/feds have funded a program to replace all led pipes over the next couple years… basically replacing all household connections in the city and all led pipes in the state over the next decade
This wasn’t highlighting enough? ” though you can fault state and federal authorities, (Mainly federal in this case.) for *not telling anybody*. “
At the time of the crisis Flint was being operated by state appointed emergency managers. The emergency managers made all the critical decisions leading up to the crisis including not adding remineralization agents to the water. There are indeed other people to blame after the crisis started but let’s be clear about who caused it.
Huge fan of musk but this is already a solved problem… flint is back on Detroit water supply (cause flint is incompetent in purifying their own) and the state/feds have funded a program to replace all led pipes over the next couple years… basically replacing all household connections in the city and all led pipes in the state over the next decade
The problem you failed to highlight was that the government knew about the problem for over 18 months!!!
It was swept under the rug for too long and there’s records that show the Governor knew about it.
The results for such a long period of exposure resulted in a net community health and IQ loss.
” And the federal EPA knew of the problem, but *didn’t tell anyone* because, reasons. ” <-- Because Democrats don't hold other Democrats to account. Example, was anyone at the EPA held accountable for poisoning the Animas River?
I’m puzzled. The only (technical!) problem in Flint was that they failed to remineralize the water.
Normally Flint was connected to the Detroit water system, which supplied water with a high enough mineral content to seal the interior of lead pipes. But Detroit was cranking up their prices, so Flint entered into an agreement with a number of other communities to build a competing system.
As soon as Detroit heard of it, they jacked their prices up to extortionate levels. Flint responded by using an emergency system which took water from one of the Great Lakes.
But, incompetently, didn’t utilize the remineralization system. The soft water dissolved the minerals that had been deposited on the inside of lead pipes, and then started dissolving the lead pipes themselves.
This is a solved problem: SOP for water systems dealing with soft water is to add enough minerals to keep this from happening, at a cost of several dollars a day for the whole system. Flint, incompetently, didn’t do this.
The real problem here is that the state EPA didn’t want to tell Flint what to do, because of racial issues. (The black communities in Michigan get really pissy if the state government intervenes.) And the federal EPA knew of the problem, but *didn’t tell anyone* because, reasons.
So a bunch of people got poisoned, but the bottom line is that the only thing that actually needed to be done was adding minerals to the water. And the actual poisoning was the Flint water department’s fault, though you can fault state and federal authorities, (Mainly federal in this case.) for *not telling anybody*.
Would it be better if there weren’t lead pipes? Sure. But, again, solved problem, you don’t get lead leaching from the pipes if you properly mineralize the water.
Well according to the last census Flint has 102K people. It’s a bit presumptive to assume that people would what to move to what amounts to a housing project. Flint has a lot of systemic problems but the biggest one is the pipes. Maybe if Michigan which caused the mess would offer every household a relocation voucher equivalent to the value of the their property if it where in another viable city of the same size then that would be more fair and probably cheaper that fixing Flint’s pipes and even a small percentage of Flint’s other problems.
Like you comment sort of… Really it is the condemning the community problem. You got a community of 55K people. I used to live in a Mitchell-Lama project in NYC with a population greater than that. Most of the housing and infrastructure in Flint is inferior, and very little in the way of the property is worth saving as historical landmarks or architecture. Many of the people in Flint could care less about living there and would just as well leave the place if they could afford to. The State of Michigan is responsible for the the water mess in particular, but basically you have a run down surplus city. The State of Michigan should simply fund the replacement of Flint with a Mitchell-Lama type community after it has paid to move as many of the population as are willing to leave. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PIPES.
OK… as long as he realizes this is good old fashioned pipes and plumbing that simply need to be replaced… If he starts coming out with bizarre engineering solutions I don’t think the much put upon people of Flint will want to have anything to do with it.