IDF Next Attack are the Last Hamas Strongholds in North Gaza


The Israeli army said Tuesday that its forces have completed the encirclement of the city of Jabaliya, and are ready to deepen the fighting as they sought to take control of one of the
last major Hamas strongholds in the northern Gaza Strip.

The northern city of Jabaliya is considered to be a Hamas stronghold and has been a key target in the IDF’s war against Hamas in Gaza, which was launched after some 3,000 Hamas terrorists stormed through the border with Israel on October 7, killing at least 1,200 people, most of them civilians, and taking some 240 hostages.

Jabaliya, four kilometers north of Gaza City, has an estimated population of 172,200 people and is home to the Indonesian Hospital. Earlier this month, the IDF said that it had compiled intelligence documents showing the presence of a tunnel network underneath the hospital, as well as aerial imagery showing rocket launchers a few dozen meters from the complex.

15 thoughts on “IDF Next Attack are the Last Hamas Strongholds in North Gaza”

  1. How exactly is the War in Israel or Ukraine for that matter, related to the subject of Next Big Future?

    I understand if it’s about technologies being used. Or when you talk about effects a war may have on technology fields, etc.

    But these reports of what is going on, and political videos with opinions on who is right or wrong, have no place on this website imho. It’s your website and you do what you want, but why not open then a sister site to comment on these sort of issues?

    • All populations follow the same growth curve: lag phase, log phase, plateau, and 90% population collapse. Our human population of 8 billion is on the plateau and overdue for collapse. The Next Big Future is all about that 90% population collapse. The usual dynamics are war, famine, and pestilence. Brian correctly targets the breaking points.

      Here is another amusing one:
      https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Asia/Trillion-Dollar-Bailout-What-Xi-Really-Wants-From-Biden.html

    • It could be interesting to explore the macro trends.

      From a demographics perspective, Israel invested in education and is now pretty high income, and has low birth rates.

      The people trapped in Gaza and abandoned by the world spent their limited resources on corruption and weapons. The people are very low income and have large families.

      Projected into the future, people in Gaza will outnumber Israelis in a few decades, buy Israel will be one of the most technically advanced and highest income nations in the world.

      There’s something interesting to say here.

      Also worth observing that light arms can be rendered worthless by an advanced force like the IDF. The IDF cuts through the Hamas fighters and fortifications as if they didn’t exist.

    • You’re not the first to ask this. I don’t come to NBF for war updates or current affairs and neither do most visitors, I would guess.

  2. Seems to me that ‘the breathlessly announced upcoming truce’ is very likely a smokescreen. Some ‘raw meat’ to feed the salivating Press, which have from around the World swarmed the Gaza area like swarms of flies on a recently abandoned wildebeest carcass.

    The ‘headline news’ is particularly telling.

    CNN: Under intense pressure Netanyahu appears poised to accept truce
    NYT: Truce plans will halt Israeli hostilities

    And so on. Paraphrased, but still.

    The POINT though is this: once I accept that Israel is in an existential war, with emphasis on WAR, not ‘conflict’ or ‘military action’ or even weaker ‘disagreement’ (all found this morning in various News outlets summaries), the idea of a truce is actually antithetical to Israel’s stated intent.

    Which is, thru a WAR that was beset upon them, by a foe that has for decades loudly and repeatedly cited the total destruction of Israel as their perpetual objective, is for Israel to encircle and ELIMINATE their foe, to the last fighter. Capture if they can, kill if the cannot capture. Eliminate.

    And not just the fighters, but their weapons of war, their caches of rockets, their small arms, their larger ones. Their tunnels, their communications, their means of re-arming.
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    So, looking at it from that angle, is a TRUCE likely anything but ‘raw meat to the media flies’?

    Nope. Just so. The pesky media desperately want to be known as the Agents of Humanitarianism that Forced Netanyahu to capitulate to the International Community and unilaterally ceasing hostilities.

    That would make them positively ecstatic. Jumping for Joy. Major cocktail gatherings in every office of participating journalists. Well announced dinner parties. Glitterati. The works.

    SEE, SEE? The humanitarian media IS actually useful for something!!!
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    I predict that Israel will give a 48 hour or 72 hour Humanitarian cease-fire, and not an actual ‘as defined in the Oxford dictionary’ truce. Let all the salivating media wipe their chins, furiously pen their victory lap artiles and videos, let the pent-up hundred-odd International Relief Agencies NGOs rush about handing out bottled water and organic non-GMO grainola bars, baby formula and disinfectant … then everyone retreats as fighting returns.

    Israel really does have an existential WAR on its hands.
    And I’m in agreement of her total encirclement and elimination plan.
    It WILL work. Sans ‘the flies’.

    ⋅-⋅-⋅ Just saying, ⋅-⋅-⋅
    ⋅-=≡ GoatGuy ✓ ≡=-⋅

    • I agree with your existential characterization. Yet Israel must exterminate 3 million Palestinians and 1 billion Muslims. Every Palestinian child hates growing up in a Jewish concentration camp. Every Muslim sympathizes with the native Palestinian refugees of the 1948 confiscation of their homes, real estate, businesses, and possessions.

      • If extermination of Palestinians is Israel’s goal then they are doing an absolutely horrible job of it. If extermination had been their goal they could just have bombed the entirety of Gaza in two days.

        And yet they didn’t. Because extermination isn’t their goal.

      • The US should stop all aid ,of any kind to Palestinians or Israel. Both sides have a right to Israel, the strongest wins. But we fuel the conflict,uears of civilian aid is what grows terroists, 100% of Hamas weapons come from US civilian aid,Israel is the biggest scammer,they own our government .
        Both are good people, when they come here,but over there they fight, and the fuel is humanitarian aid, to both sides, and military aid to Israel.
        We should not help free any hostages,they should know Israel is weak and cannot protect visitors or their own people, not a penny in tribute.

        • I so much want to agree, but:
          As the various cultures of the world start to ‘generally stagnate’, in the sense of not contributing meaningfuly through home-grown independent research (top facilities with commercialization attached i.e SpaceX), have no local trickle-down effects (not related to international trade, but could include advanced power, computation, and mobility infrastructure), and have a very limited self-sustaining economic power and growth; to overall Human Civilization; there will be very few hot spots that must be protected: north america above the mexican border, europe west of the black sea (but missing belarus and part of donbas), japan, australia/ NZ, coastal china, and israel. These populations have the wealth, innovation, and entrepreneurialism triple-threat to drag the remaining cultures out of their various hunger, disease, weather, war, and political episodes. To let any of these advanced areas be subsumed by the great black cloud of juvenile international conflict, political maneuvering drama, and charity-case religion-focussed demands is to cut back the remaining 10 to 20% of the world that will actually solve hunger, power, space, transportation, independent networked computation, water, and aging. Unfortunately, isreal and ukraine (as future EU and NATO member) are part of that exclusive fraternity of post-2100 post-scarcity ring-bearers. I am not saying a blank check – but a few AC Fleets, air power support, and top notch US/NATO communication/drone/missile tech will go a long way. All the difference in the world – witness the 2100 world cultural ‘quality GDP per capita’ boundaries that will result. (i don’t really have an opinion on Taiwan or southeast asia – take it or leave it?)

          • A difficult moral case: almost a trolley problem. Treat the backward-savage 80-90% of the world poorly (with property acquisition, colonization, and military/technology embargo) so the enlightened 10-20% can push humanity forward. Almost a LotR dramatization. A big R may even call it ‘tough love’.

            • Here comes the so predicting self hating bleeding heart. We (the supposedly enlightened 10-20%) are not doing anything to the rest of the world, they are doing it themselves without any help. Stop the self hate and the perpetual blaming of the west!!

              • I’m on your side (literally and figuratively). But what’s to be done? It would be the easiest thing in the world (or would it?) just to ‘wall off’ the 80% and just throw the occasional UNaid care package over the fence and hope that they can find peace and prosperity under their own value system – but that’s too easy. These people are potential workers, customers, colleagues, mates, etc., etc. There must be some kind of investment value, some rate of return that can be accessed from all those people? They can’t all be bent on the submission, subjugation, assimilation, and redistribution of the West, capitalism, high-GDP zones, agnostics, and their families/ jobs. As with most cultures, technology often accelerates cultural development, often without mass destabilization – such as electricity, sanitation, improved agriculture and industrial efficiency/ innovation… i.e. basic health and work productivity. I think when globalization detaches a bit and OPEC starts to crumble and Israel/ Ukraine/ Taiwan stabilizes with harder borders from the adjacent Tyrany, people will embrace work and technology over whatever petty amibitions and grievances they had — though I am really surprised that the world really toiletted after the first decade of the 21st century – it seemed like so much money and opportuntity was available to everyone. I guess that there had to be a greater military-technology difference to discourage adventurism -likely in the next 3 – 5 years.

        • Problem is, Iran is providing money, training and resources/weapons to Hamas and Hezboloah to fight Israel and U.S. forces if needed. That is their proxy fight and it’s working. We should definitely cut off payment to the Palestinians, but this is only to th eP.A. in the West Bank at this time, which is the lesser enemy of Israel, perhaps equally a victim of the settler attacks at this point while the over-stretched IDF looks the other way or even participates.
          The 2-state solution has been dead for decades, but there might still be hope for a one-state solution for just the West Bank Palestinians with full rights as Israeli citizens, also as a counter-example to the Gazans. But Israel will need U.S. help to manage this, and because no Arab power is willing to help govern and Palestinians; they won’t even take them into their own lands.
          Right now, Congress is so dysfunctional it can’t even agree to support our best ally in the Middle East, Israel.
          I don’t know what Israel is ultimately going to do with Gaza, even if it wipes out Hamas, as it must.

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