The US got about fifty F-35s in 2017 and 26 F-18 Superhornets. In 2018 there will be seventy F-35s for the USA and about fourteen F-18s. The US is getting about 75 to 85 fighter jets every year.
In 2017 and 2018, the USA got other military aircraft
15 KC-46A refueling tankers
five E-2D Advanced Hawkeye is an airborne early warning
17 P8A anti-sub in 2017 and 7 in 2018
19 C-130J cargo aircraft in 2017 and 9 in 2018
In total, the US is getting about 130 military planes each year. This does not count helicopters.
Lockheed has delivered 310 F-35s by mid-2018 and expects to deliver another 91 in 2018 after meeting last year’s target of boosting deliveries to 66. Almost one-third of the F-35s go to allies of the United States.
Russia Military Jet Deliveries
In 2017, Russia received about 43 fighter jets.
16 Su-34s, an all-weather supersonic fighter-bomber;
10 Su-35s, a new version of the super-maneuverable Su-27 fighters;
17 Su-30SMs, a variant of the Su-30MKI produced by Irkut Corp with upgrades in radar, communications, friend-or-foe identification, ejection seats, etc.
Russia had about 14 other military aircraft delivered in 2017.
Russian builders Mikoyan, Sukhoi and other contractors only manufactured some 80 warplanes – but they have the capacity to build about 130 planes a year. Russia exports military jets to other countries.
China military jet delivery estimates
China-based military website Northern Defence said China may have received around 100 aircraft in 2017. About two-thirds were combat jets.
China is building more production lines and factories to build new J-31 and J-20 stealth fighters.
China will likely increase fighter jet production roughly matching its 5-10% military budget increases. China’s military budget will be about double in 2030. China would match US fighter jet production quantities around 2025.
China might shift to mostly stealth jet production sometime around 2030. China’s stealth jet production is highly uncertain as production is just starting. China does not announce production plans or force levels.
Estimates of 4th and 5th generation jets in 2025 and 2030
The US has more jet fighter deliveries than China and Russia combined and the US has far more fifth-generation stealth fighters.
China has about 700 4th generation fighters today and about 25 fifth generation fighters.
China could have 1100 4th generation fighters and about 60-120 fifth generation fighters in 2025.
China could have 1200-1600 4th generation fighters and 200-500 5th generation fighters in 2030.
The US has about 450 fifth generation fighters today (F-22 and F-35s).
The US air force has about 1500 F-16s and F15s. The Navy has about 800 F-18s and the Marines have about 260 F-18s.
The US will have about 1000 fifth generation fighters in 2025 and about 1500 by 2030.
Russia will probably have about 1000-1200 4th generation fighters in 2030.
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world is on the edge of destruction
Time to start thinking about making a mod kit to turn the FA-18 in to a great drone.
It sure is great the the US won’t be developing or deploying any new technology during this time so China can catch up. /s
What is the relationship between a 4th generation fighter and a 5th generation fighter. One is a fighter and the other is just a target. The entire joke is that most of these fighters will never ever see combat. They will fly them around for a few decades then scrap them.
Time to start thinking about making a mod kit to turn the FA-18 in to a great drone.
It sure is great the the US won’t be developing or deploying any new technology during this time so China can catch up. /s
What is the relationship between a 4th generation fighter and a 5th generation fighter. One is a fighter and the other is just a target. The entire joke is that most of these fighters will never ever see combat. They will fly them around for a few decades then scrap them.
To whom, their neighbors? Maybe.
/s == sarcasm flag
To whom their neighbors? Maybe.
/s == sarcasm flag
no way Russia will have 1000+ stealth fighters in 2030. Russia is not in serial production of a stealth fighter yet and will likely produce less than 30 per year when they are due to their cost and complexity. They would have to produce 90 per year over 12 years to get to 1000 (including attritted aircraft). That is greater than the total of all military aircraft they produce today not including helo’s.
no way Russia will have 1000+ stealth fighters in 2030. Russia is not in serial production of a stealth fighter yet and will likely produce less than 30 per year when they are due to their cost and complexity. They would have to produce 90 per year over 12 years to get to 1,000 (including attritted aircraft). That is greater than the total of all military aircraft they produce today, not including helo’s.
You were very optimistic using an “in joke” like a /s or ever /sarc flag on this site, given the large proportion of non-native-anglosphere audience.
You were very optimistic using an in joke”” like a /s or ever /sarc flag on this site”””” given the large proportion of non-native-anglosphere audience.”””
The difference I suppose is that Russia expects to be fighting in Russian skies. Therefore it ‘s airforce will be supported by ground based radar units..Voronezh for example. Is it absolutly necessary for the aircraft to see enemy objects whilst it is getting data from a variety of radar assets? Apparently with Infrared sensors and assistance from other sensors 5th Gen aircraft are visible and vulnerable to attack, most likely from S 300-400 Sam systems. I think that overconfidence could be the US achilles heel?
4th generation fighters are not stealth fighters. 5th gen fighters are stealth fighters. Russia is not building 5th gen stealth fighters. Maybe 1 or 2 dozen
Hey, imagine all the mouths they have to feed in the defense industry, they’ve got to drum up some boogey men!
Russian Pak FA order has been quietly reduced to 2 instead of 12. Russia will have a total of 12 (10 existing and 2 on order) Pak FA prototypes by 2020. Likely less than 40 by 2030 but Pak Fa is not a stealth plane and is not 5th gen by most measurements.
The difference I suppose is that Russia expects to be fighting in Russian skies. Therefore it ‘s airforce will be supported by ground based radar units..Voronezh for example. Is it absolutly necessary for the aircraft to see enemy objects whilst it is getting data from a variety of radar assets? Apparently with Infrared sensors and assistance from other sensors 5th Gen aircraft are visible and vulnerable to attack most likely from S 300-400 Sam systems. I think that overconfidence could be the US achilles heel?
4th generation fighters are not stealth fighters. 5th gen fighters are stealth fighters. Russia is not building 5th gen stealth fighters. Maybe 1 or 2 dozen
Hey imagine all the mouths they have to feed in the defense industry they’ve got to drum up some boogey men!
Yeah. If we cut our military budget to match the Russians and the Chinese combined then every family of 4 could have $4000 dollars more in lowered taxes.
Russian Pak FA order has been quietly reduced to 2 instead of 12. Russia will have a total of 12 (10 existing and 2 on order) Pak FA prototypes by 2020. Likely less than 40 by 2030 but Pak Fa is not a stealth plane and is not 5th gen by most measurements.
Yeah. If we cut our military budget to match the Russians and the Chinese combined then every family of 4 could have $4000 dollars more in lowered taxes.
At the end of its flight the missile must lock onto the target and that maybe difficult with the stealth and with the anti-radar interference system. So the scenario is that Russia invades Eastern Europe with their limitless number of tanks and take control in a few weeks. The West would be powerless to stop them with their small number of tanks. And Russia wins. The West decides that a prolong war is not their thing. I have never understood this scenario like where are the planes? If Russia can’t protects its tank, its men and the supply line they lose. No one in the West is thinking about attacking Russia because history has shown that is a losing move. And also because Russia has nukes and they might use them is they are losing.
I would assume that much less military than what we have would be enough of a deterrence since that there are many countries in the world with much smaller military that do not get attacked. Also it would be a good idea for us to stop poking our nose in other people’s business. The basic equation is that if we spend part of our military spending on R&D, healthcare, education and infrastructure then we would be richer and more powerful in the long run. Overspending on military was one of the reason the Soviet Union fell.
ofcourse these are military giants but what about europe?
At the end of its flight the missile must lock onto the target and that maybe difficult with the stealth and with the anti-radar interference system. So the scenario is that Russia invades Eastern Europe with their limitless number of tanks and take control in a few weeks. The West would be powerless to stop them with their small number of tanks. And Russia wins. The West decides that a prolong war is not their thing. I have never understood this scenario like where are the planes? If Russia can’t protects its tank its men and the supply line they lose. No one in the West is thinking about attacking Russia because history has shown that is a losing move. And also because Russia has nukes and they might use them is they are losing.
I would assume that much less military than what we have would be enough of a deterrence since that there are many countries in the world with much smaller military that do not get attacked. Also it would be a good idea for us to stop poking our nose in other people’s business. The basic equation is that if we spend part of our military spending on R&D healthcare education and infrastructure then we would be richer and more powerful in the long run. Overspending on military was one of the reason the Soviet Union fell.
ofcourse these are military giants but what about europe?
To put it n perspective, the US is buying as many F-35’s in a year as most countries have in their entire air force inventories.
To put it n perspective the US is buying as many F-35’s in a year as most countries have in their entire air force inventories.
Great idea. Have you proposed that to your local democratically elected national representative?
Great idea. Have you proposed that to your local democratically elected national representative?
Tanks are sometimes bait for the fighter jets or bombers. Anti aircraft surface-to-air missiles can be waiting for them.Or a squadron of Russian stealth fighters jets waiting in ambush. And if quantum stealth radar is feasible in the future, the kind that can easily detect stealth aircrafts. Then it makes stealth fighters and bombers less invincible. And tanks would once again be a formidable tool immune to aircraft attacks.
world is on the edge of destruction
world is on the edge of destruction
Great idea. Have you proposed that to your local democratically elected national representative?
Great idea. Have you proposed that to your local democratically elected national representative?
To put it n perspective, the US is buying as many F-35’s in a year as most countries have in their entire air force inventories.
To put it n perspective the US is buying as many F-35’s in a year as most countries have in their entire air force inventories.
At the end of its flight the missile must lock onto the target and that maybe difficult with the stealth and with the anti-radar interference system. So the scenario is that Russia invades Eastern Europe with their limitless number of tanks and take control in a few weeks. The West would be powerless to stop them with their small number of tanks. And Russia wins. The West decides that a prolong war is not their thing. I have never understood this scenario like where are the planes? If Russia can’t protects its tank, its men and the supply line they lose. No one in the West is thinking about attacking Russia because history has shown that is a losing move. And also because Russia has nukes and they might use them is they are losing.
At the end of its flight the missile must lock onto the target and that maybe difficult with the stealth and with the anti-radar interference system. So the scenario is that Russia invades Eastern Europe with their limitless number of tanks and take control in a few weeks. The West would be powerless to stop them with their small number of tanks. And Russia wins. The West decides that a prolong war is not their thing. I have never understood this scenario like where are the planes? If Russia can’t protects its tank its men and the supply line they lose. No one in the West is thinking about attacking Russia because history has shown that is a losing move. And also because Russia has nukes and they might use them is they are losing.
I would assume that much less military than what we have would be enough of a deterrence since that there are many countries in the world with much smaller military that do not get attacked. Also it would be a good idea for us to stop poking our nose in other people’s business. The basic equation is that if we spend part of our military spending on R&D, healthcare, education and infrastructure then we would be richer and more powerful in the long run. Overspending on military was one of the reason the Soviet Union fell.
I would assume that much less military than what we have would be enough of a deterrence since that there are many countries in the world with much smaller military that do not get attacked. Also it would be a good idea for us to stop poking our nose in other people’s business. The basic equation is that if we spend part of our military spending on R&D healthcare education and infrastructure then we would be richer and more powerful in the long run. Overspending on military was one of the reason the Soviet Union fell.
ofcourse these are military giants but what about europe?
ofcourse these are military giants but what about europe?
Great idea. Have you proposed that to your local democratically elected national representative?
Yeah. If we cut our military budget to match the Russians and the Chinese combined then every family of 4 could have $4000 dollars more in lowered taxes.
Yeah. If we cut our military budget to match the Russians and the Chinese combined then every family of 4 could have $4000 dollars more in lowered taxes.
Russian Pak FA order has been quietly reduced to 2 instead of 12. Russia will have a total of 12 (10 existing and 2 on order) Pak FA prototypes by 2020. Likely less than 40 by 2030 but Pak Fa is not a stealth plane and is not 5th gen by most measurements.
Russian Pak FA order has been quietly reduced to 2 instead of 12. Russia will have a total of 12 (10 existing and 2 on order) Pak FA prototypes by 2020. Likely less than 40 by 2030 but Pak Fa is not a stealth plane and is not 5th gen by most measurements.
The difference I suppose is that Russia expects to be fighting in Russian skies. Therefore it ‘s airforce will be supported by ground based radar units..Voronezh for example. Is it absolutly necessary for the aircraft to see enemy objects whilst it is getting data from a variety of radar assets? Apparently with Infrared sensors and assistance from other sensors 5th Gen aircraft are visible and vulnerable to attack, most likely from S 300-400 Sam systems. I think that overconfidence could be the US achilles heel?
The difference I suppose is that Russia expects to be fighting in Russian skies. Therefore it ‘s airforce will be supported by ground based radar units..Voronezh for example. Is it absolutly necessary for the aircraft to see enemy objects whilst it is getting data from a variety of radar assets? Apparently with Infrared sensors and assistance from other sensors 5th Gen aircraft are visible and vulnerable to attack most likely from S 300-400 Sam systems. I think that overconfidence could be the US achilles heel?
4th generation fighters are not stealth fighters. 5th gen fighters are stealth fighters. Russia is not building 5th gen stealth fighters. Maybe 1 or 2 dozen
4th generation fighters are not stealth fighters. 5th gen fighters are stealth fighters. Russia is not building 5th gen stealth fighters. Maybe 1 or 2 dozen
To put it n perspective, the US is buying as many F-35’s in a year as most countries have in their entire air force inventories.
Hey, imagine all the mouths they have to feed in the defense industry, they’ve got to drum up some boogey men!
Hey imagine all the mouths they have to feed in the defense industry they’ve got to drum up some boogey men!
At the end of its flight the missile must lock onto the target and that maybe difficult with the stealth and with the anti-radar interference system.
So the scenario is that Russia invades Eastern Europe with their limitless number of tanks and take control in a few weeks. The West would be powerless to stop them with their small number of tanks. And Russia wins. The West decides that a prolong war is not their thing.
I have never understood this scenario like where are the planes? If Russia can’t protects its tank, its men and the supply line they lose.
No one in the West is thinking about attacking Russia because history has shown that is a losing move. And also because Russia has nukes and they might use them is they are losing.
I would assume that much less military than what we have would be enough of a deterrence since that there are many countries in the world with much smaller military that do not get attacked. Also it would be a good idea for us to stop poking our nose in other people’s business.
The basic equation is that if we spend part of our military spending on R&D, healthcare, education and infrastructure then we would be richer and more powerful in the long run.
Overspending on military was one of the reason the Soviet Union fell.
ofcourse these are military giants but what about europe?
You were very optimistic using an “in joke” like a /s or ever /sarc flag on this site, given the large proportion of non-native-anglosphere audience.
You were very optimistic using an in joke”” like a /s or ever /sarc flag on this site”””” given the large proportion of non-native-anglosphere audience.”””
no way Russia will have 1000+ stealth fighters in 2030. Russia is not in serial production of a stealth fighter yet and will likely produce less than 30 per year when they are due to their cost and complexity. They would have to produce 90 per year over 12 years to get to 1,000 (including attritted aircraft). That is greater than the total of all military aircraft they produce today, not including helo’s.
no way Russia will have 1000+ stealth fighters in 2030. Russia is not in serial production of a stealth fighter yet and will likely produce less than 30 per year when they are due to their cost and complexity. They would have to produce 90 per year over 12 years to get to 1000 (including attritted aircraft). That is greater than the total of all military aircraft they produce today not including helo’s.
To whom, their neighbors? Maybe.
To whom their neighbors? Maybe.
/s == sarcasm flag
/s == sarcasm flag
Yeah. If we cut our military budget to match the Russians and the Chinese combined then every family of 4 could have $4000 dollars more in lowered taxes.
Time to start thinking about making a mod kit to turn the FA-18 in to a great drone.
Time to start thinking about making a mod kit to turn the FA-18 in to a great drone.
It sure is great the the US won’t be developing or deploying any new technology during this time so China can catch up. /s
It sure is great the the US won’t be developing or deploying any new technology during this time so China can catch up. /s
Russian Pak FA order has been quietly reduced to 2 instead of 12. Russia will have a total of 12 (10 existing and 2 on order) Pak FA prototypes by 2020. Likely less than 40 by 2030 but Pak Fa is not a stealth plane and is not 5th gen by most measurements.
The difference I suppose is that Russia expects to be fighting in Russian skies. Therefore it ‘s airforce will be supported by ground based radar units..Voronezh for example. Is it absolutly necessary for the aircraft to see enemy objects whilst it is getting data from a variety of radar assets? Apparently with Infrared sensors and assistance from other sensors 5th Gen aircraft are visible and vulnerable to attack, most likely from S 300-400 Sam systems. I think that overconfidence could be the US achilles heel?
What is the relationship between a 4th generation fighter and a 5th generation fighter. One is a fighter and the other is just a target. The entire joke is that most of these fighters will never ever see combat. They will fly them around for a few decades then scrap them.
What is the relationship between a 4th generation fighter and a 5th generation fighter. One is a fighter and the other is just a target. The entire joke is that most of these fighters will never ever see combat. They will fly them around for a few decades then scrap them.
4th generation fighters are not stealth fighters. 5th gen fighters are stealth fighters. Russia is not building 5th gen stealth fighters. Maybe 1 or 2 dozen
Hey, imagine all the mouths they have to feed in the defense industry, they’ve got to drum up some boogey men!
You were very optimistic using an “in joke” like a /s or ever /sarc flag on this site, given the large proportion of non-native-anglosphere audience.
no way Russia will have 1000+ stealth fighters in 2030. Russia is not in serial production of a stealth fighter yet and will likely produce less than 30 per year when they are due to their cost and complexity. They would have to produce 90 per year over 12 years to get to 1,000 (including attritted aircraft). That is greater than the total of all military aircraft they produce today, not including helo’s.
To whom, their neighbors? Maybe.
/s == sarcasm flag
Time to start thinking about making a mod kit to turn the FA-18 in to a great drone.
It sure is great the the US won’t be developing or deploying any new technology during this time so China can catch up. /s
What is the relationship between a 4th generation fighter and a 5th generation fighter. One is a fighter and the other is just a target. The entire joke is that most of these fighters will never ever see combat. They will fly them around for a few decades then scrap them.