Elon Musk and Peter Diamandis Talk About The Abundant Future

Peter Diamandis told Elon Musk that healthy, longevity will be possible very soon. Elon Musk did agree that extreme longevity should be a very solvable engineering problem.

Elon Musk again said that overpopulation is a big lie. The world is mostly empty. Fly a plane from New York to Los Angeles and try to drop a bowling ball on a person.

The compute dedicated to AI is increasing by ten times every 6 months.

Elon heard today about a gigawatt scale AI compute cluster being built in Kuwait. 700,000 Nvidia B-100 chips. These are two generations beyond the H100. Elon knows of over several planned 100 megawatt AI compute clusters.

Nvidia unveiled a successor to its H100–the H200 Tensor Core GPU set for 2Q24 release.
The Nvidia H200 is the first GPU to offer HBM3e — faster, larger memory to fuel the acceleration of Generative AI and LLMs. The H200 GPU introduces an innovative and faster memory specification known as HBM3e. This elevates the GPU’s memory bandwidth to 4.8 terabytes per second, a notable increase from the H100’s 3.35 terabytes per second. It expands its total memory capacity to 141GB, up from the 80GB of its forerunner.

Nvidia’s AI market share at as much as 80%. AWS, Google, Microsoft, and traditional AI and HPC entities like AMD are actively preparing their next-generation processors for both training and inference. In response to this competitive landscape, Nvidia has brought forward its B100 and X100-based product timelines.

Nvidia unveiled the H200, its newest high-end chip for training AI models. The GPU, a successor to the H100 unveiled in March 2022, comes at a time when the AI chip giant is striving to defend its dominant position in the industry. After all, Intel, AMD, and a slew of chip startups and cloud service providers such as Amazon Web Services are trying to capture market share amid a boom in demand for chips driven by generative AI workloads.

To maintain its lead in AI and HPC hardware, Nvidia last month told investors that it aims to accelerate the development of new GPU architectures, returning to an annual product introduction cycle. The H200, utilizing the Hopper architecture, marks the beginning of this strategy

10 thoughts on “Elon Musk and Peter Diamandis Talk About The Abundant Future”

  1. Take that same flight and see how much arable land has natural ecosystems instead of farms for feeding people.

    • My guess is that it’s about as hard as dropping a rocket on a whale.. but I’m sure it’s an engineering problem that could be solved.

  2. I half recall a sci-fi short story from the 70s or 80s.

    A battle ship fleet of Earth defence spacecraft was in a stand-off with an alien fleet.

    The onboard AIs of both fleets were in control of fleet movements.

    They were so rational, that neither AI could compute a perfect plan of attack, so for an extended time, each fleet maneuvered in perfect response to the other.

    Eventually, the human commander decided to bring a crewman who had had a mental break-down to the bridge, and gave him control of fleet movements.

    The crewman kept making irrational moves, which threw off the alien AI ability to counter move, because the crewmans fleet movements were so irrational.

    Then the human fleet attacked and… here we still are.

    Might have been in an issue of Omni magazine.

  3. World is enough crowded as it is. It is not how much space we have. Think of it, do we really want to be crowded as ants and to live where there is so much humans even in nature? Normal human levels are great, less crowds in some places, let nature be less disturbed,..

  4. We should use AI to help us expand out into space. AI is our best tool to tame outer space, because it doesn’t need air, water, or food, just power which can be easily had out there. In the meantime it will help do ISRU for us, and convert the barren hostile environment into something livable and fertile.

  5. Let those who enjoy the abundance have the children.

    I’m too busy flinging boxes around on behalf of robots who can “do anything” except for everything and trying to get the printer to work. Fortunately I’ll be dead in a couple of decades and can stop dealing with this crap.

  6. Israel is a pretty good example of the world’s practical population limit. They’re leaders in desalination, desert agriculture, and reasonable density community construction.

    They rely on domestic production as much as possible to minimize the risk of supplies being cut during conflicts.

    Their systems today run mostly on local gas fields, but could be run on fusion or fission.

    As the presenters note, this approach applied more widely would result in much much higher population limit estimates.

  7. The world may be empty, but the more people there are, the smaller the supply of raw materials per individual. Of course, the stock of resources in itself does not mean anything; they still need to be processed and converted into goods, but it acts as the upper limit on the number of goods that can be physically produced. In addition, new resources can open up with the expansion of humanity, which is only possible with a certain number. It turns out to be a complex nonlinear relationship. On the one hand, a larger number of people, for some function, over time increases the number of explored resources, the efficiency of their use and the number of goods per unit of resource that can be produced. On the other hand, this same number limits final consumption. The whole question is what grows and how. Judging by current empirics, at the current stage, population growth no longer leads to increased development of the natural environment, so the more people, the worse. Two conclusions can follow from this. It is not those people who are multiplying that are multiplying, but those whose increase in number is not beneficial. Or. There are simply too many people.

    • There are ‘too many people’ to coexist well with other species in abundance (sea life, megafauna), but the planet could easily support 10x more biomass in sweating, writhing, stinking humanity…. provided we don’t have a year without a summer and become disgusting cannibals, which would absolutely happen.

      “They paved paradise and put up a parking lot…”

      Judging “the more people, the worse…” is misanthropic in any context.

      • [ Interesting POV “a year without a summer”, ‘How do we react upon a volcanic eruption (or galactic impact event) and what (precautions&)preparation would be useful therefore (technological&biological)?’ ]

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